Carlo Ancelotti: Tactics, Triumphs, and the Art of Management
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Football manager Carlo Ancelotti reflects on his decorated career, sharing insights into his tactical adaptations, his approach to managing big personalities, and the intense pressure of winning the Champions League with elite European clubs.
Guest: Carlo Ancelotti, Football Manager
A highly decorated Italian professional football manager and former player, known for his success at clubs including AC Milan, Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich.
Key takeaways
- Carlo Ancelotti considers his first Champions League win in 2003 with AC Milan as his most memorable achievement.
- Ancelotti emphasizes the importance of personality, mentality, and player comfort over rigid tactical structures.
- He explains the strategic decision to move Andrea Pirlo from a number 10 role to a holding midfielder to better utilize his passing range.
- Ancelotti highlights the need for balance in a team, particularly when deploying creative, attacking players like James Rodriguez.
- He views Champions League success as the ultimate goal for top clubs, often carrying immense pressure due to historical expectations.
Reflecting on a Legendary Career
Carlo Ancelotti, a manager who has won trophies across Europe's top leagues, reflects on his illustrious career. While he has fond memories of his time at Chelsea and other major clubs, he identifies the 2003 Champions League victory with AC Milan as his most cherished triumph. He believes that the first major success often holds a special place for any manager.
Tactical Mastery and Player Management
Ancelotti discusses his approach to tactics, emphasizing that he does not force players into roles that make them uncomfortable. Instead, he focuses on their natural instincts and how they can best contribute to the team's balance. A prime example is his decision to transition Andrea Pirlo to a holding midfield role, which allowed Pirlo to see the game differently and dictate play from deep. He also highlights the importance of creating specific tactical plans for key opponents, such as his defensive arrangements to neutralize players like Ronaldo.
The Pressure of the Champions League
For clubs like AC Milan and Real Madrid, the Champions League is not just a competition; it is an obsession. Ancelotti explains that the pressure to win this tournament often outweighs domestic league success. He recounts the emotional journey of the 2005 final loss to Liverpool and the subsequent redemption in 2007, emphasizing that mental fortitude and the support of the club ownership are crucial in overcoming such setbacks.
Modern Challenges at Everton
Discussing his role at Everton, Ancelotti focuses on building a balanced team that can accommodate creative talents like James Rodriguez. He explains that while attacking freedom is necessary for such players, the rest of the team must work together to maintain defensive structure and transition effectively. He also shares his perspective on developing young players like Dominic Calvert-Lewin, noting his specific movement and goal-scoring instincts in the box.
Timestamps
- 00:02Reflecting on career achievements and the 2003 Champions League win
- 00:36The most enjoyable period and the importance of strong personalities
- 01:51Tactical breakdown of the Kaka and Inzaghi era at AC Milan
- 02:30Reflecting on the 2005 and 2007 Champions League finals
- 04:13Discussing the best midfielders and tactical roles
- 07:18Tactical balance and the role of creative players at Everton
- 10:00Managing Real Madrid and the La Decima pressure
- 12:40Player management and the evolution of roles like Pirlo's
- 18:20Final thoughts on career legacy and future success
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00:02i won a bet because i said to him if you i won a bet because i said to him if you score 20 goals i'm gonna pay but if you score 20 goals i'm gonna pay but if you score 20 goals i'm gonna pay but if you score less than 20 goals score less than 20 goals score less than 20 goals you have to pay if even zaggy listen you have to pay if even zaggy listen you have to pay if even zaggy listen this this this it killed me i was sure that it killed me i was sure that it killed me i was sure that we were going going to win in 2007. hi this is between the lions and i'm hi this is between the lions and i'm here with mr carlo ancelotti a man who's here with mr carlo ancelotti a man who's
00:24here with mr carlo ancelotti a man who's won it all won it all won it all and he's here to talk to us mr carlo and and he's here to talk to us mr carlo and and he's here to talk to us mr carlo and shorty thank you and welcome shorty thank you and welcome shorty thank you and welcome thank you for inviting me to talk about thank you for inviting me to talk about thank you for inviting me to talk about our passion that is football well let's our passion that is football well let's our passion that is football well let's look at some of your achievements from look at some of your achievements from look at some of your achievements from the past the past
00:36the past this is staggering the clubs you've been this is staggering the clubs you've been this is staggering the clubs you've been at at at ac milan chelsea psg real madrid bayern ac milan chelsea psg real madrid bayern ac milan chelsea psg real madrid bayern munich and you've won munich and you've won munich and you've won at every single club yeah i'm really at every single club yeah i'm really at every single club yeah i'm really delighted delighted delighted to see this i have a fantastic memory to see this i have a fantastic memory to see this i have a fantastic memory for for for every trophy i won it's difficult to every trophy i won it's difficult to
00:55every trophy i won it's difficult to choose choose choose the best also if i have in my mind i the best also if i have in my mind i the best also if i have in my mind i think think think the best was the first and the first was the best was the first and the first was the best was the first and the first was the champions league in the champions league in the champions league in 2003. manchester with milan 2003. manchester with milan 2003. manchester with milan what was the most enjoyable moment i what was the most enjoyable moment i what was the most enjoyable moment i mean you you said you had a great time mean you you said you had a great time
01:11mean you you said you had a great time the first is the best but where was your the first is the best but where was your the first is the best but where was your most enjoyable time most enjoyable time most enjoyable time enjoyable time moment uh for sure in enjoyable time moment uh for sure in enjoyable time moment uh for sure in chelsea enjoyable time chelsea enjoyable time chelsea enjoyable time that the era church was really good the that the era church was really good the that the era church was really good the first year was really good first year was really good first year was really good and you know obviously great players and and you know obviously great players and
01:24and you know obviously great players and we'll get on to that in a little while we'll get on to that in a little while we'll get on to that in a little while but who were like your mainstays like but who were like your mainstays like but who were like your mainstays like the guys that you knew that you come the guys that you knew that you come the guys that you knew that you come into games undroppable you couldn't drop into games undroppable you couldn't drop into games undroppable you couldn't drop them in the big games them in the big games them in the big games in in some of these teams cedar was one in in some of these teams cedar was one
01:34in in some of these teams cedar was one of the player with strong character of the player with strong character of the player with strong character strong personality that strong personality that strong personality that is impossible for him to to miss a top is impossible for him to to miss a top is impossible for him to to miss a top game game game it was easier for example you don't have it was easier for example you don't have it was easier for example you don't have him in a small game but in the top game him in a small game but in the top game him in a small game but in the top game cedar was always there well let's move cedar was always there well let's move
01:50cedar was always there well let's move on to the champions league on to the champions league on to the champions league manchester united won the first leg but manchester united won the first leg but manchester united won the first leg but this guy kaka at this time was probably this guy kaka at this time was probably this guy kaka at this time was probably the best player in the world no the best player in the world no the best player in the world no at that time he was the best player at that time he was the best player at that time he was the best player without doubt without doubt without doubt without doubt i mean i watched this game without doubt i mean i watched this game
02:05without doubt i mean i watched this game i was injured i fractured my ribbon to i was injured i fractured my ribbon to i was injured i fractured my ribbon to see what he'd done on this day see what he'd done on this day see what he'd done on this day and in the second leg was amazing take and in the second leg was amazing take and in the second leg was amazing take me into the change room how do you make me into the change room how do you make me into the change room how do you make this team recover this team recover this team recover they lose momentum and the team going they lose momentum and the team going they lose momentum and the team going into the second leg into the second leg
02:15into the second leg that's probably mainly united as that's probably mainly united as that's probably mainly united as favorites i think i use a trick against favorites i think i use a trick against favorites i think i use a trick against them i said i think them i said i think them i said i think it is better i really think this it was it is better i really think this it was it is better i really think this it was better to i think the defeat 3-2 better to i think the defeat 3-2 better to i think the defeat 3-2 give us the opportunity to think to win give us the opportunity to think to win give us the opportunity to think to win the games the games the games because it with 2-2 you can go
02:34because it with 2-2 you can go because it with 2-2 you can go on the pitch in milan and think that on the pitch in milan and think that on the pitch in milan and think that mill nil mill nil mill nil was enough i think the fact would be was enough i think the fact would be was enough i think the fact would be considered at the last minute considered at the last minute considered at the last minute it was an opportunity to say the player it was an opportunity to say the player it was an opportunity to say the player don't worry we are going to win because don't worry we are going to win because don't worry we are going to win because we have we have we have to win in san siro and we won
02:54to win in san siro and we won to win in san siro and we won and the way you shaped up is that you and the way you shaped up is that you and the way you shaped up is that you can correct me if i'm wrong was like can correct me if i'm wrong was like can correct me if i'm wrong was like it was just an amazing team but for me it was just an amazing team but for me it was just an amazing team but for me perler was very important i think cacao perler was very important i think cacao perler was very important i think cacao was playing was playing was playing up here as a second striker you tell me up here as a second striker you tell me up here as a second striker you tell me if i'm wrong
03:06if i'm wrong if i'm wrong no defensively the shape was four for no defensively the shape was four for no defensively the shape was four for two two two right so kaka was uh with right so kaka was uh with right so kaka was uh with inzaghi shetter went on the left side inzaghi shetter went on the left side inzaghi shetter went on the left side we defended four four two gattuso we defended four four two gattuso we defended four four two gattuso needed to to double up with ronaldo needed to to double up with ronaldo needed to to double up with ronaldo sorry this is you you made special sorry this is you you made special sorry this is you you made special arrangement for ronaldo exactly okay
03:27arrangement for ronaldo exactly okay arrangement for ronaldo exactly okay with gatuzo and otto with gatuzo and otto with gatuzo and otto but with the ball the chain system the but with the ball the chain system the but with the ball the chain system the system change we push up system change we push up system change we push up the two full backs cedar vin between the two full backs cedar vin between the two full backs cedar vin between lines it's like uh lines it's like uh lines it's like uh so he was up here like this so he was up here like this so he was up here like this exactly exactly this was the system exactly exactly this was the system
03:45exactly exactly this was the system and in this game i i think a skull had and in this game i i think a skull had and in this game i i think a skull had the strong mark on pirlo the strong mark on pirlo the strong mark on pirlo and so i put pirlo up front and and so i put pirlo up front and and so i put pirlo up front and ambrosini ambrosini ambrosini as with the ball okay to take skulls as with the ball okay to take skulls as with the ball okay to take skulls away away away exactly okay tactically you mentioned exactly okay tactically you mentioned exactly okay tactically you mentioned about preparing for ronaldo we ne when i about preparing for ronaldo we ne when i
04:02about preparing for ronaldo we ne when i played under six ferguson we never played under six ferguson we never played under six ferguson we never really catered or really catered or really catered or prepared for an individual player but prepared for an individual player but prepared for an individual player but you say you did and this is a great you say you did and this is a great you say you did and this is a great example a couple what i've got here example a couple what i've got here example a couple what i've got here the two so immediately when ronaldo got the two so immediately when ronaldo got the two so immediately when ronaldo got the ball bang straight out to him wasn't
04:14the ball bang straight out to him wasn't the ball bang straight out to him wasn't he he he yeah because in in this situation yeah because in in this situation yeah because in in this situation without the ball gattuso was without the ball gattuso was without the ball gattuso was on the right
04:25and and double up with uh yeah and and double up with uh yeah this was we what we planned we were a this was we what we planned we were a this was we what we planned we were a little bit little bit little bit worried about the one against one of worried about the one against one of worried about the one against one of ronaldo with ronaldo with ronaldo with uh odo um he was so aggressive gattuso uh odo um he was so aggressive gattuso uh odo um he was so aggressive gattuso in this game in this game in this game i always thought he was a good player i always thought he was a good player i always thought he was a good player but here i saw his spirits but here i saw his spirits
04:42but here i saw his spirits aggressive all is career aggressive all is career aggressive all is career let me take you to redemption champions let me take you to redemption champions let me take you to redemption champions league final
04:53i'll see a smile come straight away i'll see a smile come straight away again kaka with the assist for insagi again kaka with the assist for insagi again kaka with the assist for insagi was the team talk beforehand about was the team talk beforehand about was the team talk beforehand about revenge revenge revenge 2007 yes for sure i think that we didn't 2007 yes for sure i think that we didn't 2007 yes for sure i think that we didn't deserve to lose in 2005 deserve to lose in 2005 deserve to lose in 2005 and i think it was the destiny that and i think it was the destiny that and i think it was the destiny that give gave us the opportunity to replay give gave us the opportunity to replay
05:12give gave us the opportunity to replay the final against liverpool the final against liverpool the final against liverpool i was sure that we were going i was sure that we were going i was sure that we were going going to win in 2007. and how long did that defeat because the and how long did that defeat because the way it happened was terrible the way you way it happened was terrible the way you way it happened was terrible the way you give away the late goals give away the late goals give away the late goals how long does that type of defeat stay how long does that type of defeat stay how long does that type of defeat stay with you but i think that with you but i think that
05:37with you but i think that it was good the club the owner it was good the club the owner it was good the club the owner berlusconi that gave us the support to berlusconi that gave us the support to berlusconi that gave us the support to to move forward quickly to move forward quickly to move forward quickly to prepare well to prepare well to prepare well the season after the decision after it the season after the decision after it the season after the decision after it was a good season was a good season was a good season we didn't won because we reached the we didn't won because we reached the we didn't won because we reached the semi-final against semi-final against
05:54semi-final against barcelona in 2006 we lost barcelona in 2006 we lost barcelona in 2006 we lost the semi-final but the semi-final but the semi-final but at that time the club was really strong at that time the club was really strong at that time the club was really strong and the owner and the owner and the owner support us and support me above all support us and support me above all support us and support me above all after the defeat after the defeat after the defeat at 100 percent and you spoke about at 100 percent and you spoke about at 100 percent and you spoke about earlier as well we had a good chat earlier as well we had a good chat
06:11earlier as well we had a good chat before and you spoke about the penalty before and you spoke about the penalty before and you spoke about the penalty shootout in 2005. shootout in 2005. shootout in 2005. they were the they were the best because they were the they were the best because they were the they were the best because i had peer law i i had peer law i i had peer law i chevchenko i had costa corta chevchenko i had costa corta chevchenko i had costa corta i had the best penalty shooter i had the best penalty shooter i had the best penalty shooter but we didn't win because the mental but we didn't win because the mental but we didn't win because the mental aspect aspect
06:30aspect at the end of the game at the end of the at the end of the game at the end of the at the end of the game at the end of the extra time for the fact that we were extra time for the fact that we were extra time for the fact that we were winning three nil and then three 3t winning three nil and then three 3t winning three nil and then three 3t they were dead on their feet they were they were dead on their feet they were they were dead on their feet they were dead they wear that dead they wear that dead they wear that crazy in 2003 i didn't have crazy in 2003 i didn't have crazy in 2003 i didn't have a really pen a good penalty taker a really pen a good penalty taker
06:46a really pen a good penalty taker because i put in the five because i put in the five because i put in the five three defenders we won wow three defenders we won wow three defenders we won wow it's not sometimes down to skill in this it's not sometimes down to skill in this it's not sometimes down to skill in this moment it's down to personality moment it's down to personality moment it's down to personality sometimes and sometimes and sometimes and mentality mentality it's not not mentality mentality it's not not mentality mentality it's not not technical skill to shoot the penalty technical skill to shoot the penalty
07:02technical skill to shoot the penalty so 2007 you equal bob paisley's record so 2007 you equal bob paisley's record so 2007 you equal bob paisley's record free champions league what what does free champions league what what does free champions league what what does that mean to you that mean to you that mean to you we're that chief i'm bad he's a good we're that chief i'm bad he's a good we're that chief i'm bad he's a good achievement achievement achievement the best competition in the world i'm the best competition in the world i'm the best competition in the world i'm going to give you a little bit of fun going to give you a little bit of fun going to give you a little bit of fun now now
07:20now i don't know if there's a manager who i don't know if there's a manager who i don't know if there's a manager who has managed has managed has managed a better array of midfielders this is a better array of midfielders this is a better array of midfielders this is staggering this is before everton staggering this is before everton staggering this is before everton and i know from speaking to you before and i know from speaking to you before and i know from speaking to you before i've missed out a couple of names like i've missed out a couple of names like i've missed out a couple of names like conte deschamps david's conte deschamps david's
07:36conte deschamps david's but if we play a diamond like you did in but if we play a diamond like you did in but if we play a diamond like you did in some of your former teams some of your former teams some of your former teams i'm going to pick my best four first who i'm going to pick my best four first who i'm going to pick my best four first who i think are my favorites i think are my favorites i think are my favorites and then you go yours how good was this and then you go yours how good was this and then you go yours how good was this guy he was great guy he was great guy he was great i'm gonna go lampard i think if you want i'm gonna go lampard i think if you want
07:51i'm gonna go lampard i think if you want 20 goals for midfield he's the best 20 goals for midfield he's the best 20 goals for midfield he's the best i'm going to go seed off like you said i'm going to go seed off like you said i'm going to go seed off like you said for the big games he's already arrives for the big games he's already arrives for the big games he's already arrives and this is the hardest one because and this is the hardest one because and this is the hardest one because you've got you've got you've got ronaldinho zidane kaka ronaldinho zidane kaka ronaldinho zidane kaka i'm going to go ronaldo because i want i'm going to go ronaldo because i want
08:09i'm going to go ronaldo because i want some for the two years he was at some for the two years he was at some for the two years he was at barcelona barcelona barcelona i've never seen anybody like that number i've never seen anybody like that number i've never seen anybody like that number 10 10 10 there are two players zidane the first there are two players zidane the first there are two players zidane the first one one one and kaka for the efficiency i think and kaka for the efficiency i think and kaka for the efficiency i think kaka for the quality the skills the kaka for the quality the skills the kaka for the quality the skills the ability ability
08:27ability zidane i will put pierlo piero at the zidane i will put pierlo piero at the zidane i will put pierlo piero at the base base base kaka as i said to the right
08:38number two number ten i will put number two number ten i will put moderate oh moderate oh moderate oh i didn't expect that how good is he i didn't expect that how good is he i didn't expect that how good is he amazing keeps the ball never gives it amazing keeps the ball never gives it amazing keeps the ball never gives it away and it's difficult away and it's difficult away and it's difficult the choice from the left side could be the choice from the left side could be the choice from the left side could be frank or thiago frank or thiago frank or thiago you tell me how in terms of all these players how in terms of all these players because in england obviously we we talk
09:03because in england obviously we we talk because in england obviously we we talk about great players and lampard is one about great players and lampard is one about great players and lampard is one of the best midfielders ever to play in of the best midfielders ever to play in of the best midfielders ever to play in england england england but in terms of goal scoring he is the but in terms of goal scoring he is the but in terms of goal scoring he is the best best best as a midfielder yes for sure as a midfielder yes for sure as a midfielder yes for sure the best with with the best capacity to the best with with the best capacity to the best with with the best capacity to to run to run
09:17to run in the box at the right time to find in the box at the right time to find in the box at the right time to find the right position i talked with lampard the right position i talked with lampard the right position i talked with lampard with uh with uh with uh he had difficulty to arrive in the box he had difficulty to arrive in the box he had difficulty to arrive in the box for the fact that maluda was there for the fact that maluda was there for the fact that maluda was there and i talked also with maluda about this and i talked also with maluda about this and i talked also with maluda about this and it was agreed when you first came and it was agreed when you first came
09:33and it was agreed when you first came through the door everton what was you through the door everton what was you through the door everton what was you looking to address looking to address looking to address like tactics the mentality within the like tactics the mentality within the like tactics the mentality within the squad personnel squad personnel squad personnel when i arrived here at the moment was when i arrived here at the moment was when i arrived here at the moment was not easy also not easy also not easy also if duncan did a good job in the period if duncan did a good job in the period if duncan did a good job in the period that was here before me that was here before me
09:48that was here before me and i didn't want it to change and i didn't want it to change and i didn't want it to change everything that they they finished the everything that they they finished the everything that they they finished the games where games where games where the last the game that they play with the last the game that they play with the last the game that they play with danka with 442 i danka with 442 i danka with 442 i try to keep the same st the same system try to keep the same st the same system try to keep the same st the same system i think we did well at the beginning and i think we did well at the beginning and i think we did well at the beginning and then after that
10:05then after that then after that with the new signing we changed a little with the new signing we changed a little with the new signing we changed a little bit our structure our system bit our structure our system bit our structure our system and our shape is going to change because and our shape is going to change because and our shape is going to change because i think that with the quality that we i think that with the quality that we i think that with the quality that we have with the have with the have with the the skills that we have in the squad we the skills that we have in the squad we the skills that we have in the squad we can play in different shape can play in different shape
10:19can play in different shape and you look at the evident team that and you look at the evident team that and you look at the evident team that you've got here you've got here you've got here and is that a good reason why you've and is that a good reason why you've and is that a good reason why you've brought the likes of alan and decorating brought the likes of alan and decorating brought the likes of alan and decorating to give you that balance across the to give you that balance across the to give you that balance across the middle of the pitch middle of the pitch middle of the pitch of course put energy in the team of course put energy in the team
10:32of course put energy in the team keeping quality with gomez or sigurdsson keeping quality with gomez or sigurdsson keeping quality with gomez or sigurdsson hames of course put more quality hames of course put more quality hames of course put more quality but with this system you need to have but with this system you need to have but with this system you need to have because we would like that because we would like that because we would like that the duffel bag push we need to have when the duffel bag push we need to have when the duffel bag push we need to have when we lose the ball we lose the ball we lose the ball balance and so and we were used to balance and so and we were used to
10:49balance and so and we were used to defend defend defend four five one trying to four five one trying to four five one trying to press with with with a nike press with with with a nike press with with with a nike pressure and that takes me to this point pressure and that takes me to this point pressure and that takes me to this point as well it's quite as well it's quite as well it's quite well i've been watching a few of the well i've been watching a few of the well i've been watching a few of the videos you get the ball and a lot of the videos you get the ball and a lot of the videos you get the ball and a lot of the time hammers time hammers
11:04time hammers eventually ends up somewhere like in eventually ends up somewhere like in eventually ends up somewhere like in here and then obviously richardson ends here and then obviously richardson ends here and then obviously richardson ends up coming in here and he's just spoke up coming in here and he's just spoke up coming in here and he's just spoke about about about the fullbacks moving up higher on the the fullbacks moving up higher on the the fullbacks moving up higher on the pitch pitch pitch and in terms of balance is that why and in terms of balance is that why and in terms of balance is that why someone like someone like someone like um the corey is important in terms of
11:20um the corey is important in terms of um the corey is important in terms of when you when you when you transition when you lose the ball in transition when you lose the ball in transition when you lose the ball in these attacking areas he protects that these attacking areas he protects that these attacking areas he protects that right side where hamas leaves yeah right side where hamas leaves yeah right side where hamas leaves yeah we we like to build the triangle on side we we like to build the triangle on side we we like to build the triangle on side and so and so and so the white areas to be covered sometimes the white areas to be covered sometimes
11:30the white areas to be covered sometimes can be covered by hammers sometimes can be covered by hammers sometimes can be covered by hammers sometimes from the right side sometimes can be from the right side sometimes can be from the right side sometimes can be covered by my commerce column covered by my commerce column covered by my commerce column with hammers inside in this case if with hammers inside in this case if with hammers inside in this case if coming coleman is up coming coleman is up coming coleman is up as do curry that has to cover the space as do curry that has to cover the space as do curry that has to cover the space of the defense but of the defense but
11:44of the defense but the problem was that we didn't concede the problem was that we didn't concede the problem was that we didn't concede goal in counter-attack goal in counter-attack goal in counter-attack only one against newcastle we considered only one against newcastle we considered only one against newcastle we considered the goal in counter-attack the goal in counter-attack the goal in counter-attack yeah we considered goal when yeah we considered goal when yeah we considered goal when when the defense was in position so the when the defense was in position so the when the defense was in position so the team was in position so team was in position so
11:59team was in position so that means that you have to be to pay that means that you have to be to pay that means that you have to be to pay more attention you have to be more more attention you have to be more more attention you have to be more aggressive aggressive aggressive individually individually yes individually individually yes individually individually yes because defend to defend is not because defend to defend is not because defend to defend is not of course you can find the defender of course you can find the defender of course you can find the defender better tactically better tactically better tactically but is most of the time is concentration
12:18but is most of the time is concentration but is most of the time is concentration and sacrifice and sacrifice and sacrifice and to try to work together and to try to work together and to try to work together and then when you've come into everton and then when you've come into everton and then when you've come into everton which player has surprised you the most which player has surprised you the most which player has surprised you the most i didn't know michael keane or gate last i didn't know michael keane or gate last i didn't know michael keane or gate last last season they they did really well i last season they they did really well i
12:32last season they they did really well i i didn't know calgary win i didn't know calgary win i didn't know calgary win and then he's improving a lot i i don't and then he's improving a lot i i don't and then he's improving a lot i i don't want to say has improved want to say has improved want to say has improved he's improving because i think that he he's improving because i think that he he's improving because i think that he didn't reach his didn't reach his didn't reach his best level in my opinion kevin lewin best level in my opinion kevin lewin best level in my opinion kevin lewin yeah sorry there's more he has more to yeah sorry there's more he has more to
12:47yeah sorry there's more he has more to do should we go on to dominic and look do should we go on to dominic and look do should we go on to dominic and look at him at him at him because i i suppose i saw a quote from because i i suppose i saw a quote from because i i suppose i saw a quote from him mentioning about scoring one touch him mentioning about scoring one touch him mentioning about scoring one touch finishes like one of your old players in finishes like one of your old players in finishes like one of your old players in zaghi do you see anzaghi in him zaghi do you see anzaghi in him zaghi do you see anzaghi in him i don't think zack in him because he has
13:00i don't think zack in him because he has i don't think zack in him because he has a different structure a different structure a different structure different characteristic calvar lewin is different characteristic calvar lewin is different characteristic calvar lewin is faster faster faster carver lewin is better with the head carver lewin is better with the head carver lewin is better with the head carver luin is stronger carver luin is stronger carver luin is stronger than him uh than him uh than him uh this area if even zaggy listen this this area if even zaggy listen this this area if even zaggy listen this he'll if you kill me he kills me he'll if you kill me he kills me
13:24he'll if you kill me he kills me but i have to say in zaghi in the boss but i have to say in zaghi in the boss but i have to say in zaghi in the boss in the box in the box in the box where the best striker that i ever had where the best striker that i ever had where the best striker that i ever had because in zack in the box was can can because in zack in the box was can can because in zack in the box was can can this player cavalier reach that level this player cavalier reach that level this player cavalier reach that level i think that this is most instinct i think that this is most instinct i think that this is most instinct natural instinct it can be dangerous
13:44natural instinct it can be dangerous natural instinct it can be dangerous like in zaggy like in zaggy like in zaggy in the box for sure i love to see the in the box for sure i love to see the in the box for sure i love to see the way that before way that before way that before like before you arrived he wasn't like before you arrived he wasn't like before you arrived he wasn't actually actually actually scoring those type of goals in the box scoring those type of goals in the box scoring those type of goals in the box one touch as much as his frequent or one touch as much as his frequent or one touch as much as his frequent or getting the opportunities now getting the opportunities now
13:58getting the opportunities now he looks he's faster than any other he looks he's faster than any other he looks he's faster than any other defender and this defender and this defender and this jump higher than any other defender so jump higher than any other defender so jump higher than any other defender so there's only a question there's only a question there's only a question of movement in details details in the of movement in details details in the of movement in details details in the details he has to be focused details he has to be focused details he has to be focused and is his focus in the box is that and is his focus in the box is that
14:13and is his focus in the box is that another reason why you bring someone another reason why you bring someone another reason why you bring someone like hammers in like hammers in like hammers in so in terms of the way that he plays in so in terms of the way that he plays in so in terms of the way that he plays in terms of terms of terms of opening the game up and then creating opening the game up and then creating opening the game up and then creating space other people this is a part of his space other people this is a part of his space other people this is a part of his game i've seen i've noticed game i've seen i've noticed
14:24game i've seen i've noticed every game i watch he opens the game up every game i watch he opens the game up every game i watch he opens the game up yeah he starts from the yeah he starts from the yeah he starts from the from the top of the screen that we see from the top of the screen that we see from the top of the screen that we see him in the position he likes to play and him in the position he likes to play and him in the position he likes to play and he's accustomed to playing but he comes he's accustomed to playing but he comes he's accustomed to playing but he comes back to the ball back to the ball back to the ball and he finds passes that nobody sees
14:37and he finds passes that nobody sees and he finds passes that nobody sees with the ball is it's difficult for him with the ball is it's difficult for him with the ball is it's difficult for him to lose one ball to lose one ball to lose one ball to miss one passes really difficult to miss one passes really difficult to miss one passes really difficult but is this why i i don't want to give but is this why i i don't want to give but is this why i i don't want to give him him him a special position on the pitch freedom a special position on the pitch freedom a special position on the pitch freedom more freedom he has to take right center more freedom he has to take right center
14:58more freedom he has to take right center of the pitch more freedom because he of the pitch more freedom because he of the pitch more freedom because he helps the team helps the team helps the team in possession and here it doesn't matter in possession and here it doesn't matter in possession and here it doesn't matter if if if here he is going he went to play on the here he is going he went to play on the here he is going he went to play on the left but it doesn't matter we have to left but it doesn't matter we have to left but it doesn't matter we have to balance the team balance the team balance the team and usually we balance the team having and usually we balance the team having
15:17and usually we balance the team having five player to attack a five player to five player to attack a five player to five player to attack a five player to defend defend defend usually is this why you're taking him at usually is this why you're taking him at usually is this why you're taking him at three different clubs because of this three different clubs because of this three different clubs because of this kind of quality on the ball kind of quality on the ball kind of quality on the ball because i like players that are able to because i like players that are able to because i like players that are able to play play play between the lines if you don't if you
15:29between the lines if you don't if you between the lines if you don't if you have a team without a player that can do have a team without a player that can do have a team without a player that can do this is it hard to win this is it hard to win this is it hard to win the big trophies if you've not got a the big trophies if you've not got a the big trophies if you've not got a player who's comfortable between the player who's comfortable between the player who's comfortable between the lines and knows how to find that space lines and knows how to find that space lines and knows how to find that space it's difficult to win trophies and it's difficult to win trophies and
15:40it's difficult to win trophies and players quality players quality players quality it's true but here again it's true but here again it's true but here again i know we're talking about him a lot but i know we're talking about him a lot but i know we're talking about him a lot but i think he deserves it in just the short i think he deserves it in just the short i think he deserves it in just the short time he's been here time he's been here time he's been here and what he brings to us everton team is and what he brings to us everton team is and what he brings to us everton team is the difference of passing the difference of passing the difference of passing the confidence the risk it takes
15:57the confidence the risk it takes the confidence the risk it takes and i think the confidence that other and i think the confidence that other and i think the confidence that other players have they just give them the players have they just give them the players have they just give them the ball because they know ball because they know ball because they know you see here we have you see here we have you see here we have two at the back and three just to have two at the back and three just to have two at the back and three just to have balance balance balance to balance the team you're talking the to balance the team you're talking the to balance the team you're talking the balance here
16:11balance here balance here here you have the the two center back here you have the the two center back here you have the the two center back and then you have ames and then you have ames and then you have ames in this case in this case you have gomez in this case in this case you have gomez in this case in this case you have gomez allan allan allan and corey the other three and the two and corey the other three and the two and corey the other three and the two the two full back the two full back the two full back are high yeah okay i got you are high yeah okay i got you are high yeah okay i got you so that's how you likely like the full so that's how you likely like the full
16:27so that's how you likely like the full backs in these areas here yeah i like it backs in these areas here yeah i like it backs in these areas here yeah i like it now hummus goes with the ball and it now hummus goes with the ball and it now hummus goes with the ball and it will be will be will be it will be a mistake if all surgames it will be a mistake if all surgames it will be a mistake if all surgames goes because goes because goes because you lose balance i got you so i you lose balance i got you so i you lose balance i got you so i understand what you're saying when they understand what you're saying when they understand what you're saying when they go here we see it again this is when
16:43go here we see it again this is when go here we see it again this is when you're in the shape you're in the shape you're in the shape five out of five midfielders good press five out of five midfielders good press five out of five midfielders good press this is what i love when he wins it he this is what i love when he wins it he this is what i love when he wins it he wants to play forward wants to play forward wants to play forward side side side all the time the side side side all the time the side side side all the time the transition has to be quick transition has to be quick transition has to be quick yeah the generation has to be quick well yeah the generation has to be quick well
17:00yeah the generation has to be quick well listen we'll have a look at one of the listen we'll have a look at one of the listen we'll have a look at one of the biggest nights in your biggest nights in your biggest nights in your illustrious career on the next part so illustrious career on the next part so illustrious career on the next part so carla we'd like to take our guests back carla we'd like to take our guests back carla we'd like to take our guests back down memory lane down memory lane down memory lane ledecima real madrid one of your finest ledecima real madrid one of your finest ledecima real madrid one of your finest moments moments moments talk me through the pressures of
17:13talk me through the pressures of talk me through the pressures of managing real madrid in the champions managing real madrid in the champions managing real madrid in the champions league final league final league final i think it the pressure was not i think it the pressure was not i think it the pressure was not for the final thing the pressure was for the final thing the pressure was for the final thing the pressure was before because before because before because when i arrived madrid were 12 years that when i arrived madrid were 12 years that when i arrived madrid were 12 years that this club was not able to reach the this club was not able to reach the
17:30this club was not able to reach the final of this competition final of this competition final of this competition and so there was a little bit an and so there was a little bit an and so there was a little bit an obsession for this is it the priority obsession for this is it the priority obsession for this is it the priority now it was now it was now it was was it the priority the priority was yes was it the priority the priority was yes was it the priority the priority was yes champion champion champion champions league over the league over champions league over the league over champions league over the league over the league the league the league wow no doubt also milan was the same
17:48wow no doubt also milan was the same wow no doubt also milan was the same champions league was the top top champions league was the top top champions league was the top top competition and i think that competition and i think that competition and i think that was for everyone a great motivation that was for everyone a great motivation that was for everyone a great motivation that competition we were really focused there competition we were really focused there competition we were really focused there we had a good season i think that the we had a good season i think that the we had a good season i think that the fact that in april we beat fact that in april we beat
18:00fact that in april we beat uh in the final of the spanish cup uh in the final of the spanish cup uh in the final of the spanish cup barcelona gave us more confidence a barcelona gave us more confidence a barcelona gave us more confidence a little more coffee was the little more coffee was the little more coffee was the the most important period because we the most important period because we the most important period because we were close to the semi-final with bayern were close to the semi-final with bayern were close to the semi-final with bayern against bayern against bayern against bayern but the motivation of the club of the but the motivation of the club of the
18:17but the motivation of the club of the supporters were strong supporters were strong supporters were strong for this competition this is was one of for this competition this is was one of for this competition this is was one of the reason because the reason because the reason because we were able to win also the quality of we were able to win also the quality of we were able to win also the quality of the team was the team was the team was was really good did playing against was really good did playing against was really good did playing against atletico as well atletico as well atletico as well add to the pressure in the final spanish add to the pressure in the final spanish
18:32add to the pressure in the final spanish all spanish final all spanish final all spanish final yes there be but also the fact that yes there be but also the fact that yes there be but also the fact that atletico is always was always a atletico is always was always a atletico is always was always a difficult difficult team difficult difficult team difficult difficult team to play against because they were really to play against because they were really to play against because they were really well defensively they're really strong well defensively they're really strong well defensively they're really strong really aggressive and we didn't start really aggressive and we didn't start
18:48really aggressive and we didn't start well well well the game considering a goal with a the game considering a goal with a the game considering a goal with a mistake and then mistake and then mistake and then to to come back in the game was really to to come back in the game was really to to come back in the game was really really complicated really complicated really complicated and that's a rush of blood from casinos and that's a rush of blood from casinos and that's a rush of blood from casinos there and how does that change there and how does that change there and how does that change your half time team talk because this your half time team talk because this
19:02your half time team talk because this isn't just just before half time isn't just just before half time isn't just just before half time oh yeah during the elf time i think we oh yeah during the elf time i think we oh yeah during the elf time i think we were a little bit nervous were a little bit nervous were a little bit nervous i said to them you have to be to come i said to them you have to be to come i said to them you have to be to come down down down take a control of the game at the end we take a control of the game at the end we take a control of the game at the end we are going to score but i are going to score but i are going to score but i i i didn't tell them we are going to
19:19i i didn't tell them we are going to i i didn't tell them we are going to score in score in score in extra i said don't worry that we have to extra i said don't worry that we have to extra i said don't worry that we have to take out take out take out the nerve that we have to come down to the nerve that we have to come down to the nerve that we have to come down to play play play better football to be efficient in front better football to be efficient in front better football to be efficient in front avoid avoid avoid counter-attack well on sort of missed counter-attack well on sort of missed counter-attack well on sort of missed chances chances
19:35chances that you guys had in this game when you that you guys had in this game when you that you guys had in this game when you see chances like this going see chances like this going see chances like this going and you're missing chances like this do and you're missing chances like this do and you're missing chances like this do you start thinking at any point on the you start thinking at any point on the you start thinking at any point on the touchline touchline touchline this might not be our night because you this might not be our night because you this might not be our night because you look very calm all the way through this look very calm all the way through this
19:46look very calm all the way through this game game game very calm no i i didn't think that very calm no i i didn't think that very calm no i i didn't think that because the team was playing good the because the team was playing good the because the team was playing good the second doll was pretty good we did some second doll was pretty good we did some second doll was pretty good we did some changes changes changes i put on ishko and marcelo to just to i put on ishko and marcelo to just to i put on ishko and marcelo to just to push a little bit forward we had the push a little bit forward we had the push a little bit forward we had the opportunity we had the control of the
20:02opportunity we had the control of the opportunity we had the control of the game of course game of course game of course you can lose the game because sometimes you can lose the game because sometimes you can lose the game because sometimes you are not able to score you are not able to score you are not able to score we never lost a confidence yeah ramos we never lost a confidence yeah ramos we never lost a confidence yeah ramos playing left wing at some points
20:18in the attack to try to equalize i think in the attack to try to equalize i think at the end we deserve to equalize also at the end we deserve to equalize also at the end we deserve to equalize also if it was the la if it was the la if it was the la if it was the last minute it's crazy i if it was the last minute it's crazy i if it was the last minute it's crazy i mean mean mean ramos we just mentioned him there he's a ramos we just mentioned him there he's a ramos we just mentioned him there he's a player huge character huge personality player huge character huge personality player huge character huge personality scores big goals here's another one yeah
20:31scores big goals here's another one yeah scores big goals here's another one yeah top level in top level in top level in in every gem in every skills character in every gem in every skills character in every gem in every skills character personality quality i think he can play personality quality i think he can play personality quality i think he can play as a striker he doesn't have problem wow as a striker he doesn't have problem wow as a striker he doesn't have problem wow i think i think i think ramos is born to play football but we ramos is born to play football but we ramos is born to play football but we look back there i want to take it back look back there i want to take it back
20:47look back there i want to take it back here here here look at a difference on a touch line look at a difference on a touch line look at a difference on a touch line between the two managers does this does between the two managers does this does between the two managers does this does this play a part in it this play a part in it this play a part in it do you think about this does the do you think about this does the do you think about this does the opposite manager have an effect he's opposite manager have an effect he's opposite manager have an effect he's always animated always animated always animated shouting look at you i think you come shouting look at you i think you come
20:59shouting look at you i think you come in that period simone was thinking that in that period simone was thinking that in that period simone was thinking that he was going to lose he was going to lose he was going to lose it's the same what happened to me in it's the same what happened to me in it's the same what happened to me in 2005. okay i was sure that we were going 2005. okay i was sure that we were going 2005. okay i was sure that we were going to win in the extra time to win in the extra time to win in the extra time because the mental aspect when you because the mental aspect when you because the mental aspect when you equalize at the last minutes equalize at the last minutes
21:14equalize at the last minutes you are really high and they are really you are really high and they are really you are really high and they are really down down down this is phenomenal from from um di maria this is phenomenal from from um di maria this is phenomenal from from um di maria he didn't do well at manchester united he didn't do well at manchester united he didn't do well at manchester united when he came to england but when he came to england but when he came to england but i played against the madrid team when he i played against the madrid team when he i played against the madrid team when he was there he was he was phenomenal was there he was he was phenomenal
21:28was there he was he was phenomenal with me played as a midfielder because with me played as a midfielder because with me played as a midfielder because we had we had we had in this game during the during the in this game during the during the in this game during the during the season we had season we had season we had an injury of kedira that was out for six an injury of kedira that was out for six an injury of kedira that was out for six months
21:44and when keviera was injured i put the and when keviera was injured i put the maria as a midfielder maria as a midfielder maria as a midfielder frame front bail ronaldo and benzema frame front bail ronaldo and benzema frame front bail ronaldo and benzema and three midfielder moderates alonso di and three midfielder moderates alonso di and three midfielder moderates alonso di maria maria maria we were really offensive without the we were really offensive without the we were really offensive without the ball but ball but ball but without the ball the maria was the without the ball the maria was the without the ball the maria was the left-winger bailed the right left-winger bailed the right
22:00left-winger bailed the right two central midfielder alonso moderates two central midfielder alonso moderates two central midfielder alonso moderates and two striker and two striker and two striker defensively was four for two in this defensively was four for two in this defensively was four for two in this game di maria he played most of the time game di maria he played most of the time game di maria he played most of the time midfielders but midfielders but midfielders but defensively was a winger so talk to me defensively was a winger so talk to me defensively was a winger so talk to me the goal scorer gareth bale world record the goal scorer gareth bale world record
22:14the goal scorer gareth bale world record signing signing signing how good was he fantastic the first year how good was he fantastic the first year how good was he fantastic the first year was was was really big goals unbelievable players really big goals unbelievable players really big goals unbelievable players unbelievable how do you manage a change unbelievable how do you manage a change unbelievable how do you manage a change room like that with room like that with room like that with many big egos big personalities how do many big egos big personalities how do many big egos big personalities how do you keep control in a dressing room like you keep control in a dressing room like
22:29you keep control in a dressing room like this this this treat them like the others i think that treat them like the others i think that treat them like the others i think that the top star is a top star outside the the top star is a top star outside the the top star is a top star outside the thrashing room thrashing room thrashing room and you know you had ronaldo but ronaldo and you know you had ronaldo but ronaldo and you know you had ronaldo but ronaldo in the dressing room was in the dressing room was in the dressing room was like the player that he played like you like the player that he played like you like the player that he played like you like rooney i think in the dressing room
22:45like rooney i think in the dressing room like rooney i think in the dressing room is is is not difficult and also also top players not difficult and also also top players not difficult and also also top players in my career top example ronaldo in my career top example ronaldo in my career top example ronaldo ibrahimovic ibrahimovic ibrahimovic sergio ramos so they have strong sergio ramos so they have strong sergio ramos so they have strong personality personality personality they can have their opinion and you have they can have their opinion and you have they can have their opinion and you have to respect i think to respect i think to respect i think i respect their opinion because
23:03i respect their opinion because i respect their opinion because sometimes sometimes sometimes talking with players they can give you a talking with players they can give you a talking with players they can give you a different idea what different idea what different idea what what you are thinking the fact that i what you are thinking the fact that i what you are thinking the fact that i put peer law as a holding midfielder it put peer law as a holding midfielder it put peer law as a holding midfielder it was an idea was an idea was an idea but supported by peerless pillow but supported by peerless pillow but supported by peerless pillow said to me i don't want to play there
23:20said to me i don't want to play there said to me i don't want to play there i'm not comfortable i'm not comfortable i'm not comfortable i have to forgot my idea i don't want to i have to forgot my idea i don't want to i have to forgot my idea i don't want to force him so when you said to pirlo force him so when you said to pirlo force him so when you said to pirlo all them years ago you're not a number all them years ago you're not a number all them years ago you're not a number 10 now i'm going to try you as a holding 10 now i'm going to try you as a holding 10 now i'm going to try you as a holding midfielder what was his reaction to that midfielder what was his reaction to that
23:31midfielder what was his reaction to that because some players nowadays you say oh because some players nowadays you say oh because some players nowadays you say oh a right winger i want you to play right a right winger i want you to play right a right winger i want you to play right back they take it as an insult and back they take it as an insult and back they take it as an insult and it doesn't like me as a player i don't it doesn't like me as a player i don't it doesn't like me as a player i don't want to do that and they have a want to do that and they have a want to do that and they have a bad reaction to it how was he simple he bad reaction to it how was he simple he
23:43bad reaction to it how was he simple he said to me said to me said to me i want to try because i think i can do i i want to try because i think i can do i i want to try because i think i can do i said to him said to him said to him there you have more space to show there you have more space to show there you have more space to show your quality that are fantastic played your quality that are fantastic played your quality that are fantastic played number 10 number 10 number 10 i said i am a little bit selfish saying i said i am a little bit selfish saying i said i am a little bit selfish saying this because i need this because i need this because i need a player with quality in front of the
24:00a player with quality in front of the a player with quality in front of the defense defense defense to build up as a number 10 you have more to build up as a number 10 you have more to build up as a number 10 you have more difficulty and you have difficulty and you have difficulty and you have more stock you can see the game like more stock you can see the game like more stock you can see the game like this you can see the game this you can see the game this you can see the game i played 10 years in that position i i played 10 years in that position i i played 10 years in that position i knew great i love pirlo i could speak knew great i love pirlo i could speak
24:13knew great i love pirlo i could speak about him all day about him all day about him all day i want to take you back to your great i want to take you back to your great i want to take you back to your great night here marcelo you brought him one night here marcelo you brought him one night here marcelo you brought him one as a substitute in this game as a substitute in this game as a substitute in this game i was not happy before the game but i i was not happy before the game but i i was not happy before the game but i think he was helpful because think he was helpful because think he was helpful because when he came in was a little bit upset when he came in was a little bit upset
24:28when he came in was a little bit upset with the manager with the manager with the manager but good reaction good reaction yes of but good reaction good reaction yes of but good reaction good reaction yes of course course course it didn't soak i like that but at the it didn't soak i like that but at the it didn't soak i like that but at the end it went end it went end it went it went well exactly sometimes the it went well exactly sometimes the it went well exactly sometimes the substitutes are the ones that can win substitutes are the ones that can win substitutes are the ones that can win the game huh yeah the game huh yeah the game huh yeah and then this man ronaldo steps up
24:44and then this man ronaldo steps up and then this man ronaldo steps up this was the goal number 17 of ronald in this was the goal number 17 of ronald in this was the goal number 17 of ronald in this competition this competition this competition and i want i want a bet because i said and i want i want a bet because i said and i want i want a bet because i said to him to him to him if you if you score 20 goals i'm gonna if you if you score 20 goals i'm gonna if you if you score 20 goals i'm gonna pay but if you score less than 20 goal pay but if you score less than 20 goal pay but if you score less than 20 goal you have to pay did you pay a dinner you have to pay did you pay a dinner
25:01you have to pay did you pay a dinner he didn't pay yet you have to call him he didn't pay yet you have to call him he didn't pay yet you have to call him and say and say and say do you remember this but what a night so do you remember this but what a night so do you remember this but what a night so the pressure to win the champions league the pressure to win the champions league the pressure to win the champions league is a bigger hit than any way you've been is a bigger hit than any way you've been is a bigger hit than any way you've been yes i think so wow where does where does yes i think so wow where does where does yes i think so wow where does where does this one rank in
25:14this one rank in this one rank in in one the victor of this competition is in one the victor of this competition is in one the victor of this competition is uh to compare them in 2003. wow so your uh to compare them in 2003. wow so your uh to compare them in 2003. wow so your best best best yeah well listen carlo i've absolutely yeah well listen carlo i've absolutely yeah well listen carlo i've absolutely enjoyed your company enjoyed your company enjoyed your company it was a pleasure thank you very much it was a pleasure thank you very much it was a pleasure thank you very much and listen hopefully many and listen hopefully many
25:29and listen hopefully many many more successful nights something many more successful nights something many more successful nights something like this at everton i'm sure you're like this at everton i'm sure you're like this at everton i'm sure you're open open open i also to do the same with everton good i also to do the same with everton good i also to do the same with everton good i think i think i think for this club is a good time and the for this club is a good time and the for this club is a good time and the right time right time right time and to celebrate some trophies well good and to celebrate some trophies well good and to celebrate some trophies well good luck luck
25:44luck thank you cheers
