Mel Gibson on Faith, Filmmaking, and the State of the World

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00:13day all right we're rolling what's day all right we're rolling what's cracking oh man my back just now just cracking oh man my back just now just cracking oh man my back just now just all these chair fantastic what is going all these chair fantastic what is going all these chair fantastic what is going on with your back you you you have like on with your back you you you have like on with your back you you you have like you've had back issues in the past right you've had back issues in the past right you've had back issues in the past right we talked about that the last time you we talked about that the last time you

00:24we talked about that the last time you came on well I was born scoliotic you came on well I was born scoliotic you came on well I was born scoliotic you know yeah so it's like I bought just I know yeah so it's like I bought just I know yeah so it's like I bought just I just bought my own Penal so I could just bought my own Penal so I could just bought my own Penal so I could click the [ __ ] you click the [ __ ] you click the [ __ ] you remember here take all devices away from remember here take all devices away from remember here take all devices away from I can't believe you

00:42remember you remember clicking on the remember you remember clicking on the pen that's hilarious oh yeah I'm I'm a pen that's hilarious oh yeah I'm I'm a pen that's hilarious oh yeah I'm I'm a fidget you know so I uh let me take fidget you know so I uh let me take fidget you know so I uh let me take everything everything everything off it's it's not good oh yeah born born off it's it's not good oh yeah born born off it's it's not good oh yeah born born slightly scoliotic and then of course I slightly scoliotic and then of course I slightly scoliotic and then of course I banged myself up over the years you know banged myself up over the years you know

00:57banged myself up over the years you know of course what can you what when the do of course what can you what when the do of course what can you what when the do they do anything other than surgery for they do anything other than surgery for they do anything other than surgery for people with scoliosis they do because I people with scoliosis they do because I people with scoliosis they do because I don't want to do surgery once you start don't want to do surgery once you start don't want to do surgery once you start opening stuff up and fooling with it opening stuff up and fooling with it opening stuff up and fooling with it yeah there's no going back especially

01:09yeah there's no going back especially yeah there's no going back especially the back yeah back's a rough I never met the back yeah back's a rough I never met the back yeah back's a rough I never met anybody that had like fusions or anybody that had like fusions or anybody that had like fusions or anything where it turned out good no and anything where it turned out good no and anything where it turned out good no and like hypocrates you know the father of like hypocrates you know the father of like hypocrates you know the father of medicine he said in any ailment look medicine he said in any ailment look medicine he said in any ailment look first to the spine and it was like he's

01:24first to the spine and it was like he's first to the spine and it was like he's kind of right it all emanates from the kind of right it all emanates from the kind of right it all emanates from the from the core well if your back is from the core well if your back is from the core well if your back is [ __ ] up everything's [ __ ] up yeah [ __ ] up everything's [ __ ] up yeah [ __ ] up everything's [ __ ] up yeah you know no matter how strong your arms you know no matter how strong your arms you know no matter how strong your arms and legs are if your back is [ __ ] up and legs are if your back is [ __ ] up and legs are if your back is [ __ ] up you're you're in trouble yeah that's

01:35you're you're in trouble yeah that's you're you're in trouble yeah that's true your brain everything everything true your brain everything everything true your brain everything everything goes to hell well you're in pain all the goes to hell well you're in pain all the goes to hell well you're in pain all the time yeah people with back problems like time yeah people with back problems like time yeah people with back problems like they can't think straight because you're they can't think straight because you're they can't think straight because you're always like you know it's always there's always like you know it's always there's

01:44always like you know it's always there's a gift to not thinking straight a gift to not thinking straight a gift to not thinking straight H tell me tell me more I want to know H tell me tell me more I want to know H tell me tell me more I want to know well it actually takes you down some well it actually takes you down some well it actually takes you down some pretty weird paths you know um uh if pretty weird paths you know um uh if pretty weird paths you know um uh if you're happy all the you're happy all the you're happy all the time I don't know you don't have you you time I don't know you don't have you you time I don't know you don't have you you don't have to strive to find thoughts to

02:01don't have to strive to find thoughts to don't have to strive to find thoughts to make yourself happy right so it's like a make yourself happy right so it's like a make yourself happy right so it's like a um it's a good it's a good uh it's a um it's a good it's a good uh it's a um it's a good it's a good uh it's a good predisposition I think I agree to good predisposition I think I agree to good predisposition I think I agree to that yeah I think being happy all the that yeah I think being happy all the that yeah I think being happy all the time is a it's kind of an unlikely time is a it's kind of an unlikely time is a it's kind of an unlikely scenario no nobody is yeah no but we all

02:18scenario no nobody is yeah no but we all scenario no nobody is yeah no but we all want it you notice we all yearn for it want it you notice we all yearn for it want it you notice we all yearn for it there's just Inc that's the only thing there's just Inc that's the only thing there's just Inc that's the only thing we all want right just happiness little we all want right just happiness little we all want right just happiness little peace well it's also we're shown it like peace well it's also we're shown it like peace well it's also we're shown it like in you know television movies like we're in you know television movies like we're

02:32in you know television movies like we're shown happiness as this goal like seek shown happiness as this goal like seek shown happiness as this goal like seek happiness sure should be happy all the happiness sure should be happy all the happiness sure should be happy all the time happy should never be upset yeah time happy should never be upset yeah time happy should never be upset yeah well it's not realistic it's completely well it's not realistic it's completely well it's not realistic it's completely unrealistic however it's nice to have unrealistic however it's nice to have unrealistic however it's nice to have those little Journeys through ART where

02:48those little Journeys through ART where those little Journeys through ART where you can actually explore those things you can actually explore those things you can actually explore those things you can explore your IDs you can explore you can explore your IDs you can explore you can explore your IDs you can explore happiness and uh so you can experience happiness and uh so you can experience happiness and uh so you can experience the opposite I look at situations around the opposite I look at situations around the opposite I look at situations around me and I I generally feel pretty me and I I generally feel pretty me and I I generally feel pretty grateful uh from what some people go

03:05grateful uh from what some people go grateful uh from what some people go through I'm grateful and everybody's got through I'm grateful and everybody's got through I'm grateful and everybody's got their crap you know but uh like this their crap you know but uh like this their crap you know but uh like this morning for example I would be surprised morning for example I would be surprised morning for example I would be surprised if my home is still there yeah we were if my home is still there yeah we were if my home is still there yeah we were just talking about that the Palisades is just talking about that the Palisades is

03:18just talking about that the Palisades is on fire yeah my friend Tom Tom soraa his on fire yeah my friend Tom Tom soraa his on fire yeah my friend Tom Tom soraa his house is gone yeah is where he used to house is gone yeah is where he used to house is gone yeah is where he used to live he sold it luckily yeah I have a live he sold it luckily yeah I have a live he sold it luckily yeah I have a son he's in the sort of volunteer son he's in the sort of volunteer son he's in the sort of volunteer firebrigade Milo I call him the mayor of firebrigade Milo I call him the mayor of firebrigade Milo I call him the mayor of Malibu and he's running around and I Malibu and he's running around and I

03:33Malibu and he's running around and I asked him how's things looking there asked him how's things looking there asked him how's things looking there Milo he says not good pops he says your Milo he says not good pops he says your Milo he says not good pops he says your neighborhood and he sent me a a video of neighborhood and he sent me a a video of neighborhood and he sent me a a video of my neighborhood and it's INF Flames it my neighborhood and it's INF Flames it my neighborhood and it's INF Flames it looks like an inferno so yeah do you looks like an inferno so yeah do you looks like an inferno so yeah do you think this will get you out of think this will get you out of

03:46think this will get you out of California finally yeah maybe you know California finally yeah maybe you know California finally yeah maybe you know where you going to go oh I don't know I where you going to go oh I don't know I where you going to go oh I don't know I got a place in Costa Rica I love it got a place in Costa Rica I love it got a place in Costa Rica I love it there yeah Costa Rica's nice yeah I there yeah Costa Rica's nice yeah I there yeah Costa Rica's nice yeah I bought there many years ago and it's bought there many years ago and it's bought there many years ago and it's it's a it's in a real nice spot it's not it's a it's in a real nice spot it's not

03:58it's a it's in a real nice spot it's not too touristy or you know dirt roads so too touristy or you know dirt roads so too touristy or you know dirt roads so it's off the Beaton does it feel safe it's off the Beaton does it feel safe it's off the Beaton does it feel safe out there pretty safe I think look it no out there pretty safe I think look it no out there pretty safe I think look it no place is safe I mean you got the darang place is safe I mean you got the darang place is safe I mean you got the darang down there you know's that it's kind of down there you know's that it's kind of down there you know's that it's kind of in the um what's the next country down

04:15in the um what's the next country down in the um what's the next country down Panama and you and and there's this no Panama and you and and there's this no Panama and you and and there's this no man's land where the Colombians come man's land where the Colombians come man's land where the Colombians come through and it's like you know all kinds through and it's like you know all kinds through and it's like you know all kinds of dirty dealings in the jungle with you of dirty dealings in the jungle with you of dirty dealings in the jungle with you know who knows you know drugs and mules know who knows you know drugs and mules know who knows you know drugs and mules and yeah you know

04:30and yeah you know and yeah you know yeah so um you know it can be dangerous yeah so um you know it can be dangerous yeah so um you know it can be dangerous and I've heard of danger happening there and I've heard of danger happening there and I've heard of danger happening there you know you hear about somebody getting you know you hear about somebody getting you know you hear about somebody getting chopped up by a machete and Costa Rica chopped up by a machete and Costa Rica chopped up by a machete and Costa Rica is actually it's actually a cool place is actually it's actually a cool place is actually it's actually a cool place because it it never had a culture of

04:45because it it never had a culture of because it it never had a culture of death like a lot of the Central American death like a lot of the Central American death like a lot of the Central American countries did they have a culture of countries did they have a culture of countries did they have a culture of death you know even Mexico I mean they death you know even Mexico I mean they death you know even Mexico I mean they used to you know tear people's hearts used to you know tear people's hearts used to you know tear people's hearts out and pyramids all that sort of stuff out and pyramids all that sort of stuff out and pyramids all that sort of stuff Aztecs were like the Romans the Mayans

04:58Aztecs were like the Romans the Mayans Aztecs were like the Romans the Mayans were like the Greeks they all sort of were like the Greeks they all sort of were like the Greeks they all sort of dabbled in some stuff um Costa Rica dabbled in some stuff um Costa Rica dabbled in some stuff um Costa Rica always had a policy where always had a policy where always had a policy where they was like the switzland of Central they was like the switzland of Central they was like the switzland of Central America they emphasize education and America they emphasize education and America they emphasize education and health and everybody's literate and it's health and everybody's literate and it's

05:14health and everybody's literate and it's it's kind of interesting in that way but it's kind of interesting in that way but it's kind of interesting in that way but it deals with its own little troubles it deals with its own little troubles it deals with its own little troubles yeah well like every country you know yeah well like every country you know yeah well like every country you know anywhere down in that part of the world anywhere down in that part of the world anywhere down in that part of the world MH it's just like there's so much MH it's just like there's so much MH it's just like there's so much sketchy [ __ ] going on all around you sketchy [ __ ] going on all around you

05:29sketchy [ __ ] going on all around you yeah there can be yeah yeah one has to yeah there can be yeah yeah one has to yeah there can be yeah yeah one has to uh be forewarned forearmed all that you uh be forewarned forearmed all that you uh be forewarned forearmed all that you know so I have a a nice place down there know so I have a a nice place down there know so I have a a nice place down there yeah I have some friends that have a yeah I have some friends that have a yeah I have some friends that have a place in Mexico and I'm always like place in Mexico and I'm always like place in Mexico and I'm always like don't you ever don't you ever

05:43don't you ever worry yeah I worked in Mexico a couple worry yeah I worked in Mexico a couple worry yeah I worked in Mexico a couple of times I was down there and it was uh of times I was down there and it was uh of times I was down there and it was uh it was in BARC Cruz and apparently you it was in BARC Cruz and apparently you it was in BARC Cruz and apparently you know people were rolling heads into bars know people were rolling heads into bars know people were rolling heads into bars and stuff like that you know rival GRS and stuff like that you know rival GRS and stuff like that you know rival GRS and stuff and they said I'd go for a and stuff and they said I'd go for a

05:57and stuff and they said I'd go for a walk you know and uh they'd sayou crazy walk you know and uh they'd sayou crazy walk you know and uh they'd sayou crazy going for a walk you'll get kidnapped I going for a walk you'll get kidnapped I going for a walk you'll get kidnapped I said I'm not going to get kidnapped I'm said I'm not going to get kidnapped I'm said I'm not going to get kidnapped I'm the guy that pays you're going to get the guy that pays you're going to get the guy that pays you're going to get kidnapped and I'm not going to pay your kidnapped and I'm not going to pay your kidnapped and I'm not going to pay your Ransom so it's Ransom so it's

06:11Ransom so it's like I never felt insecure in that way like I never felt insecure in that way like I never felt insecure in that way and you know if something's going to and you know if something's going to and you know if something's going to happen it's going to happen yeah you happen it's going to happen yeah you happen it's going to happen yeah you know if your numbers up I know I used to know if your numbers up I know I used to know if your numbers up I know I used to watch guys who do what I do for a living watch guys who do what I do for a living watch guys who do what I do for a living and they'd have a fance of bodyguards and they'd have a fance of bodyguards

06:27and they'd have a fance of bodyguards around them you know and like for around them you know and like for around them you know and like for security and stuff but and I used to security and stuff but and I used to security and stuff but and I used to have that stuff for a little while but n have that stuff for a little while but n have that stuff for a little while but n doesn't make any difference you're going doesn't make any difference you're going doesn't make any difference you're going to be to be to be okay okay or not or not right until okay okay or not or not right until okay okay or not or not right until you're not until you're not and you're not until you're not and

06:42you're not until you're not and everybody's going to be okay until everybody's going to be okay until everybody's going to be okay until they're not yeah I got into dodgy they're not yeah I got into dodgy they're not yeah I got into dodgy situation one night and I acted crazy situation one night and I acted crazy situation one night and I acted crazy yeah yeah what happened if you act crazy yeah yeah what happened if you act crazy yeah yeah what happened if you act crazy everybody leaves you alone especially if everybody leaves you alone especially if everybody leaves you alone especially if you are a little crazy you know they you are a little crazy you know they

06:56you are a little crazy you know they know that you're in a stress mode so you know that you're in a stress mode so you know that you're in a stress mode so you actually get angry I if if I feel like actually get angry I if if I feel like actually get angry I if if I feel like I'm threatened I get angry which is what I'm threatened I get angry which is what I'm threatened I get angry which is what happens and then you get really in happens and then you get really in happens and then you get really in people's faces and they think this guy's people's faces and they think this guy's people's faces and they think this guy's crazy but all the old cultures thought

07:11crazy but all the old cultures thought crazy but all the old cultures thought that like when there were people that like when there were people that like when there were people traveling across the Great Plains to go traveling across the Great Plains to go traveling across the Great Plains to go west you know if you acted nuts they'd west you know if you acted nuts they'd west you know if you acted nuts they'd leave you alone because they didn't want leave you alone because they didn't want leave you alone because they didn't want your evil spirits oh so what happened your evil spirits oh so what happened your evil spirits oh so what happened with you oh nothing they left me alone

07:23with you oh nothing they left me alone with you oh nothing they left me alone but where was this oh man I was in a bad but where was this oh man I was in a bad but where was this oh man I was in a bad neighborhood I um was it was when I neighborhood I um was it was when I neighborhood I um was it was when I first got into LA and I was to go to first got into LA and I was to go to first got into LA and I was to go to dinner with Costa Gabus he was a Greek dinner with Costa Gabus he was a Greek dinner with Costa Gabus he was a Greek director I uh went the wrong way and it director I uh went the wrong way and it director I uh went the wrong way and it was before they had you know phones with

07:42was before they had you know phones with was before they had you know phones with like right you know all that stuff so like right you know all that stuff so like right you know all that stuff so Thomas guide it was the Thomas guide Thomas guide it was the Thomas guide Thomas guide it was the Thomas guide anyway I wasn't guided well by Thomas I anyway I wasn't guided well by Thomas I anyway I wasn't guided well by Thomas I ended up in the wrong place and then my ended up in the wrong place and then my ended up in the wrong place and then my muffler fell off and I was driving a muffler fell off and I was driving a muffler fell off and I was driving a Mercedes you know pretty nice sporty car

07:57Mercedes you know pretty nice sporty car Mercedes you know pretty nice sporty car you know and I thought oh and I had the you know and I thought oh and I had the you know and I thought oh and I had the wife in the car and I pulled into a side wife in the car and I pulled into a side wife in the car and I pulled into a side street the sun was going down and as I street the sun was going down and as I street the sun was going down and as I got out of the car I thought oh I got to got out of the car I thought oh I got to got out of the car I thought oh I got to fix this Muffler I can't just drag it fix this Muffler I can't just drag it

08:11fix this Muffler I can't just drag it people started coming from houses people started coming from houses people started coming from houses and they came up to me and and I saw and they came up to me and and I saw and they came up to me and and I saw them coming in the rearview mirror and them coming in the rearview mirror and them coming in the rearview mirror and uh I jumped out of the car and got in uh I jumped out of the car and got in uh I jumped out of the car and got in their face and I said what the [ __ ] do their face and I said what the [ __ ] do their face and I said what the [ __ ] do you want cuz I thought I felt threatened you want cuz I thought I felt threatened

08:25you want cuz I thought I felt threatened right and um and the guy said man I'm right and um and the guy said man I'm right and um and the guy said man I'm just looking for some money you got any just looking for some money you got any just looking for some money you got any money so I was being mugged and it was money so I was being mugged and it was money so I was being mugged and it was like I thought I'll think about it when like I thought I'll think about it when like I thought I'll think about it when I'm [ __ ] finished like you I'm [ __ ] finished like you I'm [ __ ] finished like you know I opened the trunk and this is the know I opened the trunk and this is the

08:39know I opened the trunk and this is the weird part Joe I I will never quite weird part Joe I I will never quite weird part Joe I I will never quite understand this I opened the trunk to understand this I opened the trunk to understand this I opened the trunk to see what I could find to help me put the see what I could find to help me put the see what I could find to help me put the muffler back on and sitting there the muffler back on and sitting there the muffler back on and sitting there the only two things in the back of the trunk only two things in the back of the trunk only two things in the back of the trunk was a pair of wire cutters and a coat was a pair of wire cutters and a coat

08:55was a pair of wire cutters and a coat hanger it's exactly what I needed and I hanger it's exactly what I needed and I hanger it's exactly what I needed and I don't know why it was there that's weird don't know why it was there that's weird don't know why it was there that's weird isn't it that's very weird so you use isn't it that's very weird so you use isn't it that's very weird so you use the coat hanger to wire up your muffler the coat hanger to wire up your muffler the coat hanger to wire up your muffler yep I cut a piece of wire wired the yep I cut a piece of wire wired the yep I cut a piece of wire wired the muffler up the whole time more guys are

09:08muffler up the whole time more guys are muffler up the whole time more guys are coming Jesus Christ and they're standing coming Jesus Christ and they're standing coming Jesus Christ and they're standing behind me and I'm feeling like oh and um behind me and I'm feeling like oh and um behind me and I'm feeling like oh and um anyway I get up I finished the muffler anyway I get up I finished the muffler anyway I get up I finished the muffler slam and I'm acting mad and crazy the slam and I'm acting mad and crazy the slam and I'm acting mad and crazy the whole time and they think this guy's whole time and they think this guy's

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10:44drink a1.com drink a1.com Joe Rogan seriously get on this so Joe Rogan seriously get on this so Joe Rogan seriously get on this so things are more dangerous now I think things are more dangerous now I think things are more dangerous now I think they are yeah I think so for sure yep they are yeah I think so for sure yep they are yeah I think so for sure yep yeah we were just talking about the yeah we were just talking about the yeah we were just talking about the Wildfire situation and how crazy it is Wildfire situation and how crazy it is Wildfire situation and how crazy it is that they spent 24 billion dollars last that they spent 24 billion dollars last

11:00that they spent 24 billion dollars last year on the homeless yeah and what do year on the homeless yeah and what do year on the homeless yeah and what do they spend on preventing these wildfires they spend on preventing these wildfires they spend on preventing these wildfires Zer Z Zip Zip and in 2019 I think Nome Zer Z Zip Zip and in 2019 I think Nome Zer Z Zip Zip and in 2019 I think Nome said you know I'm going to take care of said you know I'm going to take care of said you know I'm going to take care of the forest and maintain the forest and the forest and maintain the forest and the forest and maintain the forest and do all that kind of stuff he didn't do

11:14do all that kind of stuff he didn't do do all that kind of stuff he didn't do anything didn't do anything and then on anything didn't do anything and then on anything didn't do anything and then on top of that they cut the water off yeah top of that they cut the water off yeah top of that they cut the water off yeah that's right yeah it's all funny and that's right yeah it's all funny and that's right yeah it's all funny and then I think all our tax dollars then I think all our tax dollars then I think all our tax dollars probably went for Gavin's hair Gill I probably went for Gavin's hair Gill I probably went for Gavin's hair Gill I don't know but it's like you know it's

11:25don't know but it's like you know it's don't know but it's like you know it's sad it's like the place is just on fire sad it's like the place is just on fire sad it's like the place is just on fire well the whole state is just so poorly well the whole state is just so poorly well the whole state is just so poorly managed it's so conf it's so frustrating managed it's so conf it's so frustrating managed it's so conf it's so frustrating and confusing and then he gets on TV and and confusing and then he gets on TV and and confusing and then he gets on TV and pretends like everything's great mhm and pretends like everything's great mhm and

11:38pretends like everything's great mhm and California is the best we have the best California is the best we have the best California is the best we have the best state we have the most amazing economy state we have the most amazing economy state we have the most amazing economy and like you're out of your [ __ ] mind and like you're out of your [ __ ] mind and like you're out of your [ __ ] mind dude you've ruined the state personally dude you've ruined the state personally dude you've ruined the state personally ruined it well it's the same team that ruined it well it's the same team that ruined it well it's the same team that was up in San Francisco and they came

11:50was up in San Francisco and they came was up in San Francisco and they came down to LA and they're doing what they down to LA and they're doing what they down to LA and they're doing what they did in San Francisco and yeah San did in San Francisco and yeah San did in San Francisco and yeah San Francisco is kind of like apocalyptic Francisco is kind of like apocalyptic Francisco is kind of like apocalyptic now you know yeah I went there and it's now you know yeah I went there and it's now you know yeah I went there and it's like people every you know homeless you like people every you know homeless you like people every you know homeless you know it's just it's a mess it's just

12:01know it's just it's a mess it's just know it's just it's a mess it's just unbelievable that Society can crumble unbelievable that Society can crumble unbelievable that Society can crumble that quickly mhm really unbelievable it that quickly mhm really unbelievable it that quickly mhm really unbelievable it doesn't take long no yeah I read a book doesn't take long no yeah I read a book doesn't take long no yeah I read a book once by Jared diamond called collapse once by Jared diamond called collapse once by Jared diamond called collapse you ever read that book yeah yeah crazy you ever read that book yeah yeah crazy you ever read that book yeah yeah crazy right it says all the things you need

12:15right it says all the things you need right it says all the things you need for a civilization to cave in and for a civilization to cave in and for a civilization to cave in and collapse and a lot of the things are collapse and a lot of the things are collapse and a lot of the things are present all those ear marks the present all those ear marks the present all those ear marks the precursors of a collapse they're present precursors of a collapse they're present precursors of a collapse they're present in our time so it's it's an interesting in our time so it's it's an interesting in our time so it's it's an interesting observation yeah and we're no smarter

12:30observation yeah and we're no smarter observation yeah and we're no smarter than our grandparents I don't think well than our grandparents I don't think well than our grandparents I don't think well that brings me to one of my favorite that brings me to one of my favorite that brings me to one of my favorite movies of yours is Apocalypto yeah you movies of yours is Apocalypto yeah you movies of yours is Apocalypto yeah you know when the Mayans were running things know when the Mayans were running things know when the Mayans were running things like who could have ever thought when like who could have ever thought when like who could have ever thought when they had such an incredibly

12:41they had such an incredibly they had such an incredibly sophisticated Society unbelievable sophisticated Society unbelievable sophisticated Society unbelievable construction like the stuff that they construction like the stuff that they construction like the stuff that they had built that one day you just walk had built that one day you just walk had built that one day you just walk through there and there's nothing through there and there's nothing through there and there's nothing nothing nothing and nobody in fact nothing nothing and nobody in fact nothing nothing and nobody in fact there's something because it's there's something because it's

12:52there's something because it's interesting somebody was flying by what interesting somebody was flying by what interesting somebody was flying by what they thought was a volcano in the 30s they thought was a volcano in the 30s they thought was a volcano in the 30s some Buzz Boy and he thought hey that's some Buzz Boy and he thought hey that's some Buzz Boy and he thought hey that's somebody built that wait a minute somebody built that wait a minute somebody built that wait a minute there's 4X 8T bricks that's not that's there's 4X 8T bricks that's not that's there's 4X 8T bricks that's not that's man-made and it is literally the biggest man-made and it is literally the biggest

13:09man-made and it is literally the biggest pyramid in the world it's bigger than pyramid in the world it's bigger than pyramid in the world it's bigger than the ones in Egypt and it's in Guatemala the ones in Egypt and it's in Guatemala the ones in Egypt and it's in Guatemala yeah we talked about that the other day yeah we talked about that the other day yeah we talked about that the other day yeah it's a recent discovery right well yeah it's a recent discovery right well yeah it's a recent discovery right well not that recent I was U maybe 20 years not that recent I was U maybe 20 years not that recent I was U maybe 20 years ago I visited I went down there with the

13:24ago I visited I went down there with the ago I visited I went down there with the uh with the archaeologist a guy named uh with the archaeologist a guy named uh with the archaeologist a guy named Richard Hansen who's from or some place Richard Hansen who's from or some place Richard Hansen who's from or some place and he's down there with his family he's and he's down there with his family he's and he's down there with his family he's been working tirelessly for like 30 been working tirelessly for like 30 been working tirelessly for like 30 years trying to extract this preclassic years trying to extract this preclassic

13:37years trying to extract this preclassic city from the jungle and there's not a city from the jungle and there's not a city from the jungle and there's not a bunch of tourists all the pyramids in bunch of tourists all the pyramids in bunch of tourists all the pyramids in tial would fit inside the one big tial would fit inside the one big tial would fit inside the one big pyramid in El Mirador really yeah it's a pyramid in El Mirador really yeah it's a pyramid in El Mirador really yeah it's a monster and so that tells you that the monster and so that tells you that the monster and so that tells you that the preclassic civilization was bigger and preclassic civilization was bigger and

13:54preclassic civilization was bigger and grander and more sophisticated than the grander and more sophisticated than the grander and more sophisticated than the civilizations that came after it yeah civilizations that came after it yeah civilizations that came after it yeah pretty interesting well it is pretty interesting well it is pretty interesting well it is unbelievable how like when when you the unbelievable how like when when you the unbelievable how like when when you the accounts of like people that visited accounts of like people that visited accounts of like people that visited Mexico and visited the Aztecs like what Mexico and visited the Aztecs like what

14:09Mexico and visited the Aztecs like what the markets looked like and how insane the markets looked like and how insane the markets looked like and how insane it was and how gorgeous it was and then it was and how gorgeous it was and then it was and how gorgeous it was and then just yeah disease yeah disease or I just yeah disease yeah disease or I just yeah disease yeah disease or I don't know if it was disease or what I don't know if it was disease or what I don't know if it was disease or what I think the people were pretty think the people were pretty think the people were pretty dissatisfied it would have been hard for dissatisfied it would have been hard for

14:22dissatisfied it would have been hard for uh Cortez with his limited numbers to uh Cortez with his limited numbers to uh Cortez with his limited numbers to actually take over a civilization like actually take over a civilization like actually take over a civilization like that unless they kind kind of happened that unless they kind kind of happened that unless they kind kind of happened upon a civilization that was pretty upon a civilization that was pretty upon a civilization that was pretty dissatisfied with the way things were dissatisfied with the way things were dissatisfied with the way things were going yeah so I think they had people to going yeah so I think they had people to

14:35going yeah so I think they had people to help them sort of Rebel when when you're help them sort of Rebel when when you're help them sort of Rebel when when you're making a movie like Apocalypto I mean making a movie like Apocalypto I mean making a movie like Apocalypto I mean that's a crazy undertaking you're making that's a crazy undertaking you're making that's a crazy undertaking you're making an entire movie where there's no English an entire movie where there's no English an entire movie where there's no English in it at all and it's a blockbuster yeah in it at all and it's a blockbuster yeah in it at all and it's a blockbuster yeah yeah it's cool it was fun that's one of

14:49yeah it's cool it was fun that's one of yeah it's cool it was fun that's one of the best movies man it's a [ __ ] great the best movies man it's a [ __ ] great the best movies man it's a [ __ ] great movie well because I think it's scary movie well because I think it's scary movie well because I think it's scary because nobody's speaking your language because nobody's speaking your language because nobody's speaking your language and you're looking at indigenous peoples and you're looking at indigenous peoples and you're looking at indigenous peoples who you and because they're not speaking who you and because they're not speaking

15:02who you and because they're not speaking a language you totally kind of buy it a language you totally kind of buy it a language you totally kind of buy it and you can buy the horror and and the and you can buy the horror and and the and you can buy the horror and and the Primal nature of of the story you want Primal nature of of the story you want Primal nature of of the story you want to tell and and really it's just a to tell and and really it's just a to tell and and really it's just a series of fears one after the other you series of fears one after the other you series of fears one after the other you know being chased by you know scary guys know being chased by you know scary guys

15:18know being chased by you know scary guys or W eaten by wild animals or you know or W eaten by wild animals or you know or W eaten by wild animals or you know hit by blow you know blow gun it's all hit by blow you know blow gun it's all hit by blow you know blow gun it's all like uh a series of these things but I like uh a series of these things but I like uh a series of these things but I think basically I was doing was trying think basically I was doing was trying think basically I was doing was trying to talk about our time to talk about our time to talk about our time now and the civilization that we live in now and the civilization that we live in

15:35now and the civilization that we live in and how close are we to collapse and and how close are we to collapse and and how close are we to collapse and what are the things that lead to what are the things that lead to what are the things that lead to collapse you know it's environmental collapse you know it's environmental collapse you know it's environmental stuff it's um Human stuff it's um Human stuff it's um Human Sacrifice yeah I mean we do that kind of Sacrifice yeah I mean we do that kind of Sacrifice yeah I mean we do that kind of we do yeah yeah we do we just dress it we do yeah yeah we do we just dress it we do yeah yeah we do we just dress it up Y when you find out medications are

15:53up Y when you find out medications are up Y when you find out medications are killing people and they keep prescribing killing people and they keep prescribing killing people and they keep prescribing them and they do it for money that's them and they do it for money that's them and they do it for money that's kind of sacrifice when you find out that kind of sacrifice when you find out that kind of sacrifice when you find out that Wars are irresponsible they're not just Wars are irresponsible they're not just Wars are irresponsible they're not just Wars not just no they're they're for Wars not just no they're they're for

16:05Wars not just no they're they're for money we send our young people over money we send our young people over money we send our young people over there to to die MH sometimes for good there to to die MH sometimes for good there to to die MH sometimes for good reasons sometimes for not I mean I have reasons sometimes for not I mean I have reasons sometimes for not I mean I have I love this I love the warrior I do I I love this I love the warrior I do I I love this I love the warrior I do I love the warrior but I hate the war man love the warrior but I hate the war man love the warrior but I hate the war man yeah and um well we hate we hate an yeah and um well we hate we hate an

16:21yeah and um well we hate we hate an unjust War yes absolutely yeah yeah unjust War yes absolutely yeah yeah unjust War yes absolutely yeah yeah anyway it's uh yeah it's a mess anyway it's uh yeah it's a mess anyway it's uh yeah it's a mess but the human sacrifice aspect is is but the human sacrifice aspect is is but the human sacrifice aspect is is Alive and Well in our society I think it Alive and Well in our society I think it Alive and Well in our society I think it really is it's just dressed up in a really is it's just dressed up in a really is it's just dressed up in a different way yeah MH yeah rhetoric different way yeah MH yeah rhetoric

16:41different way yeah MH yeah rhetoric around it but they've always been able around it but they've always been able around it but they've always been able to justify it like an Apocalypto was to justify it like an Apocalypto was to justify it like an Apocalypto was like yeah so the crops will be better like yeah so the crops will be better like yeah so the crops will be better hey we'll just you know yeah kill a few hey we'll just you know yeah kill a few hey we'll just you know yeah kill a few people yeah and then I had all these people yeah and then I had all these people yeah and then I had all these people come out of the woodwork hey people come out of the woodwork hey

16:52people come out of the woodwork hey we're we're archaeologists and we're we're archaeologists and we're we're archaeologists and scientists and that never happened so scientists and that never happened so scientists and that never happened so there's this revisionism about it too there's this revisionism about it too there's this revisionism about it too that it didn't happen but there are that it didn't happen but there are that it didn't happen but there are accounts from the time where yes people accounts from the time where yes people accounts from the time where yes people did witness these things and um and of did witness these things and um and of

17:06did witness these things and um and of course I had a bunch of battery of course I had a bunch of battery of course I had a bunch of battery of archaeologists and scientists and archaeologists and scientists and archaeologists and scientists and professors on my own that say yeah well professors on my own that say yeah well professors on my own that say yeah well this stuff did happen and here's the this stuff did happen and here's the this stuff did happen and here's the here's the you know the depictions of it here's the you know the depictions of it here's the you know the depictions of it in paintings and images and you know so in paintings and images and you know so

17:19in paintings and images and you know so it's like it did happen so when you when it's like it did happen so when you when it's like it did happen so when you when you set out to make a movie like that you set out to make a movie like that you set out to make a movie like that like what first of all what brings you like what first of all what brings you like what first of all what brings you to that did you get the script first to that did you get the script first to that did you get the script first first like what was it an idea that you first like what was it an idea that you first like what was it an idea that you had in your head it was uh it just came

17:33had in your head it was uh it just came had in your head it was uh it just came from in here and I was working on from in here and I was working on from in here and I was working on something a buddy of mine said so what something a buddy of mine said so what something a buddy of mine said so what do you want to do next I said ah man I do you want to do next I said ah man I do you want to do next I said ah man I want to direct something and I always want to direct something and I always want to direct something and I always want to direct a chase film he said what want to direct a chase film he said what want to direct a chase film he said what kind of Chase I said a foot chase he

17:47kind of Chase I said a foot chase he kind of Chase I said a foot chase he said what I said yeah people chasing you said what I said yeah people chasing you said what I said yeah people chasing you I mean there's something kind of Primal I mean there's something kind of Primal I mean there's something kind of Primal and scary about a foot chase and I think and scary about a foot chase and I think and scary about a foot chase and I think in order to have a foot chase you can't in order to have a foot chase you can't in order to have a foot chase you can't have a society where there's any kind of have a society where there's any kind of

17:58have a society where there's any kind of cars or anything anything like that cars or anything anything like that cars or anything anything like that otherwise you have a car chase but I otherwise you have a car chase but I otherwise you have a car chase but I want to film a foot chase like it's a want to film a foot chase like it's a want to film a foot chase like it's a car chase and uh he said H I said what car chase and uh he said H I said what car chase and uh he said H I said what are you thinking I said well I'm are you thinking I said well I'm are you thinking I said well I'm thinking if you go back before Columbus thinking if you go back before Columbus

18:10thinking if you go back before Columbus discovered America you know and it's discovered America you know and it's discovered America you know and it's like uh people assumed that Columbus like uh people assumed that Columbus like uh people assumed that Columbus discovered America and then life began I discovered America and then life began I discovered America and then life began I said I want to know what was happening said I want to know what was happening said I want to know what was happening right before he got there before he got right before he got there before he got right before he got there before he got there and I said so I had this idea that

18:24there and I said so I had this idea that there and I said so I had this idea that you see all this stuff going on and you see all this stuff going on and you see all this stuff going on and there's no time period on it and then there's no time period on it and then there's no time period on it and then all of a sudden you date it by the all of a sudden you date it by the all of a sudden you date it by the arrival of Europeans and I thought it's arrival of Europeans and I thought it's arrival of Europeans and I thought it's kind of like the rodling you know Planet kind of like the rodling you know Planet kind of like the rodling you know Planet of the Apes in here it's like it's kind

18:37of the Apes in here it's like it's kind of the Apes in here it's like it's kind of a cool cool ending and he said oh wow of a cool cool ending and he said oh wow of a cool cool ending and he said oh wow and he said where do you think Columbus and he said where do you think Columbus and he said where do you think Columbus landed I said why don't let's look so I landed I said why don't let's look so I landed I said why don't let's look so I looked up and the first peoples he looked up and the first peoples he looked up and the first peoples he encountered were Mayan trading canoes encountered were Mayan trading canoes encountered were Mayan trading canoes off the coast of off the coast of

18:50off the coast of Honduras and I thought cool what was Honduras and I thought cool what was Honduras and I thought cool what was happening in Honduras you know and you happening in Honduras you know and you happening in Honduras you know and you look at these towns and and pyramids and look at these towns and and pyramids and look at these towns and and pyramids and temples and stuff at that time and then temples and stuff at that time and then temples and stuff at that time and then the story was born from there and of the story was born from there and of the story was born from there and of course then we read the book by Jared course then we read the book by Jared

19:05course then we read the book by Jared Diamond collaps I read the Mind Bible Diamond collaps I read the Mind Bible Diamond collaps I read the Mind Bible the popal Vu and you know tried to delve the popal Vu and you know tried to delve the popal Vu and you know tried to delve into what they believed and and what into what they believed and and what into what they believed and and what their civilization was like and they had their civilization was like and they had their civilization was like and they had Concepts as we do of Heaven and Hell of Concepts as we do of Heaven and Hell of Concepts as we do of Heaven and Hell of punishment or reward you know it was a

19:22punishment or reward you know it was a punishment or reward you know it was a little different quite a bit different little different quite a bit different little different quite a bit different actually in fact when I went down actually in fact when I went down actually in fact when I went down to uh the arch olical sites at Hill to uh the arch olical sites at Hill to uh the arch olical sites at Hill midor they dug something up and it was midor they dug something up and it was midor they dug something up and it was like well what is it and they said we like well what is it and they said we like well what is it and they said we don't don't don't know it could there was this carved

19:37know it could there was this carved know it could there was this carved image in the stone of this Mayan Warrior image in the stone of this Mayan Warrior image in the stone of this Mayan Warrior drinking and he had an ear spool and it drinking and he had an ear spool and it drinking and he had an ear spool and it was like H so they dug further and was like H so they dug further and was like H so they dug further and further and it went like 26 MERS down further and it went like 26 MERS down further and it went like 26 MERS down and it was the entire story of the popal and it was the entire story of the popal and it was the entire story of the popal Vu W of the twins going into hell and

19:53Vu W of the twins going into hell and Vu W of the twins going into hell and getting their father's head and swimming getting their father's head and swimming getting their father's head and swimming back and it was it's this crazy story back and it was it's this crazy story back and it was it's this crazy story and it um uh kind of dated that book and it um uh kind of dated that book and it um uh kind of dated that book because I think it was a almost 3,000 because I think it was a almost 3,000 because I think it was a almost 3,000 years old this this uh mural this years old this this uh mural this years old this this uh mural this carving so it tells you that the story

20:10carving so it tells you that the story carving so it tells you that the story is pretty old and they thought initially is pretty old and they thought initially is pretty old and they thought initially it was probably back in the 1300s but it was probably back in the 1300s but it was probably back in the 1300s but this confirmed that it was at least this confirmed that it was at least this confirmed that it was at least 2,600 years old something like that yeah 2,600 years old something like that yeah 2,600 years old something like that yeah so it's pretty cool that to be there so it's pretty cool that to be there so it's pretty cool that to be there when they're digging that stuff up is

20:24when they're digging that stuff up is when they're digging that stuff up is mindblowing well they're missing so much mindblowing well they're missing so much mindblowing well they're missing so much of the May history it's very coffee I of the May history it's very coffee I of the May history it's very coffee I want some water that's water in there want some water that's water in there want some water that's water in there water they're missing so much of the water they're missing so much of the water they're missing so much of the Mayan history you know because Mayan history you know because Mayan history you know because everybody's gone but um one of the you

20:37everybody's gone but um one of the you everybody's gone but um one of the you ever see that very bizarre carving where ever see that very bizarre carving where ever see that very bizarre carving where it looks like there's a guy who's it looks like there's a guy who's it looks like there's a guy who's sitting in a cockpit of a spaceship like sitting in a cockpit of a spaceship like sitting in a cockpit of a spaceship like looking through some sort of an an eye looking through some sort of an an eye looking through some sort of an an eye thing yeah they got some weird stuff thing yeah they got some weird stuff thing yeah they got some weird stuff it's like weird yeah where there's fire

20:50it's like weird yeah where there's fire it's like weird yeah where there's fire underneath the chair like what is that underneath the chair like what is that underneath the chair like what is that they got dudes that look like Europeans they got dudes that look like Europeans they got dudes that look like Europeans they have these guys with red beards they have these guys with red beards they have these guys with red beards helmets and stuff it's like these helmets and stuff it's like these helmets and stuff it's like these Phoenician guys who probably traveled Phoenician guys who probably traveled Phoenician guys who probably traveled over there early on over there early on

21:05over there early on yeah probably maybe in the sixth Century yeah probably maybe in the sixth Century yeah probably maybe in the sixth Century or something like that so they it wasn't or something like that so they it wasn't or something like that so they it wasn't that long a boat ride so they probably that long a boat ride so they probably that long a boat ride so they probably went over there and made contact and went over there and made contact and went over there and made contact and they they thought they were gods or they they thought they were gods or they they thought they were gods or something and then they went away again something and then they went away again

21:16something and then they went away again and they said well wait for them to come and they said well wait for them to come and they said well wait for them to come back and uh of course they did come back back and uh of course they did come back back and uh of course they did come back but it didn't work out the same no no no but it didn't work out the same no no no but it didn't work out the same no no no well there's so many accounts of you well there's so many accounts of you well there's so many accounts of you know people visiting the especially when know people visiting the especially when know people visiting the especially when you get into the Amazon sure oh I don't

21:31you get into the Amazon sure oh I don't you get into the Amazon sure oh I don't know about the Amazon oh my God what's know about the Amazon oh my God what's know about the Amazon oh my God what's tell me about that well first of all the tell me about that well first of all the tell me about that well first of all the Amazon used to be filled with people and Amazon used to be filled with people and Amazon used to be filled with people and most of the Amazon is man-made the most of the Amazon is man-made the most of the Amazon is man-made the jungle in the Amazon is agriculture yeah jungle in the Amazon is agriculture yeah

21:43jungle in the Amazon is agriculture yeah wow yeah okay the jungle and the Amazon wow yeah okay the jungle and the Amazon wow yeah okay the jungle and the Amazon they didn't even know this until fairly they didn't even know this until fairly they didn't even know this until fairly recently mhm and they now know from recently mhm and they now know from recently mhm and they now know from flying over they use light liar which is flying over they use light liar which is flying over they use light liar which is this uh Light mini radar so they so when this uh Light mini radar so they so when this uh Light mini radar so they so when they use this laser radar when they fly

21:59they use this laser radar when they fly they use this laser radar when they fly over it they're finding all these grids over it they're finding all these grids over it they're finding all these grids and Pathways and cities in the jungle so and Pathways and cities in the jungle so and Pathways and cities in the jungle so the jungle had consumed all these cities the jungle had consumed all these cities the jungle had consumed all these cities you think there was millions and you think there was millions and you think there was millions and millions of people living in the Amazon millions of people living in the Amazon

22:10millions of people living in the Amazon and that Europeans came over diseases and that Europeans came over diseases and that Europeans came over diseases everybody dies jungle consumes a city everybody dies jungle consumes a city everybody dies jungle consumes a city people come back 200 years later looking people come back 200 years later looking people come back 200 years later looking for it like the lost city of Z like that for it like the lost city of Z like that for it like the lost city of Z like that uh that story right they go back to look uh that story right they go back to look uh that story right they go back to look and there's there's nothing left yeah

22:23and there's there's nothing left yeah and there's there's nothing left yeah Guns Germs and Steel yeah yeah yeah Guns Germs and Steel yeah yeah yeah Guns Germs and Steel yeah yeah yeah great great great yeah wow that's fascinating I don't have yeah wow that's fascinating I don't have yeah wow that's fascinating I don't have to look into that and we're going to look into that and we're going to look into that and we're going through all those things right now Guns through all those things right now Guns through all those things right now Guns Germs and Steel oh yeah oh my God yeah Germs and Steel oh yeah oh my God yeah

22:36Germs and Steel oh yeah oh my God yeah germs yeah oh God the germs I had I'm germs yeah oh God the germs I had I'm germs yeah oh God the germs I had I'm just just on the tail end of some just just on the tail end of some just just on the tail end of some hideous flu that was going I don't know hideous flu that was going I don't know hideous flu that was going I don't know if you did you get the h5n1 or whatever if you did you get the h5n1 or whatever if you did you get the h5n1 or whatever the [ __ ] it is I don't know what the the [ __ ] it is I don't know what the the [ __ ] it is I don't know what the hell yeah I've had that that was the hell yeah I've had that that was the

22:48hell yeah I've had that that was the swine thing I had swine flu one time I swine thing I had swine flu one time I swine thing I had swine flu one time I you had that 2009 I yes it was around you had that 2009 I yes it was around you had that 2009 I yes it was around then yeah yeah it was it was an epidemic then yeah yeah it was it was an epidemic then yeah yeah it was it was an epidemic a pandemic whatever you want to call it a pandemic whatever you want to call it a pandemic whatever you want to call it but it didn't have the same sort of but it didn't have the same sort of but it didn't have the same sort of press releases that Co did sure I got press releases that Co did sure I got

23:03press releases that Co did sure I got the swine I acted more like a pig you the swine I acted more like a pig you the swine I acted more like a pig you know it's terrible terrible wallowing in know it's terrible terrible wallowing in know it's terrible terrible wallowing in my own my own my own mud so uh I like Flight Risk it's fun mud so uh I like Flight Risk it's fun mud so uh I like Flight Risk it's fun movie oh it's a whole you know it's a movie oh it's a whole you know it's a movie oh it's a whole you know it's a it's a hoot I mean I think the first it's a hoot I mean I think the first it's a hoot I mean I think the first thing you got to do with any film and I

23:18thing you got to do with any film and I thing you got to do with any film and I think it's incumbent upon all directors think it's incumbent upon all directors think it's incumbent upon all directors artists to entertain artists to entertain artists to entertain first in some fashion even if it's a first in some fashion even if it's a first in some fashion even if it's a heavy story you have to find some some heavy story you have to find some some heavy story you have to find some some aspect of it that entertains and uh and aspect of it that entertains and uh and aspect of it that entertains and uh and I think this for entertainment's sake is I think this for entertainment's sake is

23:33I think this for entertainment's sake is just fun and it's quick I'm I'm not just fun and it's quick I'm I'm not just fun and it's quick I'm I'm not subjecting you to four hours of like subjecting you to four hours of like subjecting you to four hours of like watching autism dry right it's like it's watching autism dry right it's like it's watching autism dry right it's like it's like uh you know it's 85 90 minutes yeah like uh you know it's 85 90 minutes yeah like uh you know it's 85 90 minutes yeah it's a good time yeah and Mark is insane it's a good time yeah and Mark is insane it's a good time yeah and Mark is insane yeah he's great in it he plays a good

23:49yeah he's great in it he plays a good yeah he's great in it he plays a good psycho oh he's a psychopath Mark's got a psycho oh he's a psychopath Mark's got a psycho oh he's a psychopath Mark's got a good Dark Side there's some there's some good Dark Side there's some there's some good Dark Side there's some there's some dark stuff there that he was able to dark stuff there that he was able to dark stuff there that he was able to draw from and uh every you know and then draw from and uh every you know and then draw from and uh every you know and then he'd let it out I can't even repeat some he'd let it out I can't even repeat some

24:00he'd let it out I can't even repeat some of the stuff he'd say in fact we had to of the stuff he'd say in fact we had to of the stuff he'd say in fact we had to cut most of it out it was like really cut most of it out it was like really cut most of it out it was like really sick but uh we we hint at sick but uh we we hint at sick but uh we we hint at it anyway when you make a movie now I it anyway when you make a movie now I it anyway when you make a movie now I mean you've had such a career when you mean you've had such a career when you mean you've had such a career when you make a movie now like what motivates you make a movie now like what motivates you

24:15make a movie now like what motivates you at this point in your life um like how at this point in your life um like how at this point in your life um like how do you how do you decide let's hit the do you how do you decide let's hit the do you how do you decide let's hit the green light on this one yeah there are green light on this one yeah there are green light on this one yeah there are things that speak to me and uh and they things that speak to me and uh and they things that speak to me and uh and they speak for a for a long time it's uh speak for a for a long time it's uh speak for a for a long time it's uh I remember when I was a a kid in high I remember when I was a a kid in high

24:32I remember when I was a a kid in high school I was studying English and said school I was studying English and said school I was studying English and said well where did the English language come well where did the English language come well where did the English language come from and they talked about wow it came from and they talked about wow it came from and they talked about wow it came from this old guttural German Old Norse from this old guttural German Old Norse from this old guttural German Old Norse that the Vikings brought across and I that the Vikings brought across and I that the Vikings brought across and I was thinking well that's cool the was thinking well that's cool the

24:44was thinking well that's cool the Vikings you know and then immediately I Vikings you know and then immediately I Vikings you know and then immediately I start thinking man somebody should make start thinking man somebody should make start thinking man somebody should make I want to make a film about Vikings and I want to make a film about Vikings and I want to make a film about Vikings and they only speak in Old Norse because if they only speak in Old Norse because if they only speak in Old Norse because if if if they say if they say h you know if if if they say if they say h you know if if if they say if they say h you know if they speak speak English all of a sudden

24:59they speak speak English all of a sudden they speak speak English all of a sudden right you're not buying it but if right you're not buying it but if right you're not buying it but if they're speaking some guttural language they're speaking some guttural language they're speaking some guttural language you're sort of scared by them and it's you're sort of scared by them and it's you're sort of scared by them and it's like that's scary to me and then I said like that's scary to me and then I said like that's scary to me and then I said to myself I'm 17 years old why am I to myself I'm 17 years old why am I to myself I'm 17 years old why am I thinking about making films about

25:11thinking about making films about thinking about making films about Vikings I don't know anything about Vikings I don't know anything about Vikings I don't know anything about making films and not much about Vikings making films and not much about Vikings making films and not much about Vikings so why the hell am I even thinking about so why the hell am I even thinking about so why the hell am I even thinking about that but that was something that was that but that was something that was that but that was something that was early on was like a drive I guess to early on was like a drive I guess to early on was like a drive I guess to sort of depict things like that so I did

25:24sort of depict things like that so I did sort of depict things like that so I did films in other languages in Mayan and in films in other languages in Mayan and in films in other languages in Mayan and in in Aramaic in in Latin you know so and in Aramaic in in Latin you know so and in Aramaic in in Latin you know so and there's the power to that I noticed when there's the power to that I noticed when there's the power to that I noticed when I was young I used to go and watch a lot I was young I used to go and watch a lot I was young I used to go and watch a lot of foreign films and I watch French of foreign films and I watch French

25:37of foreign films and I watch French movies right or German or whatever they movies right or German or whatever they movies right or German or whatever they were Spanish I'd watch them and I think were Spanish I'd watch them and I think were Spanish I'd watch them and I think wow the acting's great in those and it wow the acting's great in those and it wow the acting's great in those and it seemed better because of the subtitles seemed better because of the subtitles seemed better because of the subtitles because more believable somehow I don't because more believable somehow I don't because more believable somehow I don't know right because you're not you're not

25:52know right because you're not you're not know right because you're not you're not hearing insincerity in their voice CU hearing insincerity in their voice CU hearing insincerity in their voice CU you don't even understand what they're you don't even understand what they're you don't even understand what they're saying no yeah you just feel the saying no yeah you just feel the saying no yeah you just feel the emotions and words and it also it has to emotions and words and it also it has to emotions and words and it also it has to take your attention because you have to take your attention because you have to take your attention because you have to do another function you have to read

26:03do another function you have to read do another function you have to read yeah which is another thing that's sort yeah which is another thing that's sort yeah which is another thing that's sort of maybe blinds you to the flaws in the of maybe blinds you to the flaws in the of maybe blinds you to the flaws in the film making perhaps so you know hey it's film making perhaps so you know hey it's film making perhaps so you know hey it's a great trick yeah it's alisation a great trick yeah it's alisation a great trick yeah it's alisation there's a there is a thing about reading there's a there is a thing about reading there's a there is a thing about reading it while you're watching it's like an

26:16it while you're watching it's like an it while you're watching it's like an added element of concentration MH you added element of concentration MH you added element of concentration MH you know like subtitled movies you feel like know like subtitled movies you feel like know like subtitled movies you feel like you're a smarter person watching a movie you're a smarter person watching a movie you're a smarter person watching a movie where you're reading it as well yeah and where you're reading it as well yeah and where you're reading it as well yeah and there's yeah there's something about the there's yeah there's something about the

26:27there's yeah there's something about the written word that's like it's a pretty written word that's like it's a pretty written word that's like it's a pretty interesting thing to throw into the mix interesting thing to throw into the mix interesting thing to throw into the mix I know when I first started it was kind I know when I first started it was kind I know when I first started it was kind of confusing but then I got really good of confusing but then I got really good of confusing but then I got really good at it and I think uh especially with at it and I think uh especially with at it and I think uh especially with something like what the passion that I

26:40something like what the passion that I something like what the passion that I did the written word was very important did the written word was very important did the written word was very important because it was you know you got all because it was you know you got all because it was you know you got all those books the Bible you know you've those books the Bible you know you've those books the Bible you know you've got the the different gospels and stuff got the the different gospels and stuff got the the different gospels and stuff that people are quite familiar with half that people are quite familiar with half

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28:17movie but it seemed like there was resistance to that movie oh yeah no resistance to that movie oh yeah no resistance to that movie oh yeah no there was which uh I I thought was very there was which uh I I thought was very there was which uh I I thought was very strange there was like Hollywood strange there was like Hollywood strange there was like Hollywood resistance to that movie like people resistance to that movie like people resistance to that movie like people didn't like that you were making it it didn't like that you were making it it didn't like that you were making it it seemed like yeah there's a lot of there seemed like yeah there's a lot of there

28:28seemed like yeah there's a lot of there was a lot of opposition to it and uh I was a lot of opposition to it and uh I was a lot of opposition to it and uh I don't know it's I think if you ever hit don't know it's I think if you ever hit don't know it's I think if you ever hit on that subject matter you're going to on that subject matter you're going to on that subject matter you're going to get people going because of course it's get people going because of course it's get people going because of course it's big subject matter and it's like uh you big subject matter and it's like uh you big subject matter and it's like uh you know and my contention is you know when

28:45know and my contention is you know when know and my contention is you know when I was making it it was like you're I was making it it was like you're I was making it it was like you're making this film and the idea was that making this film and the idea was that making this film and the idea was that we're all responsible for this that his we're all responsible for this that his we're all responsible for this that his sacrifice was For All Mankind and that sacrifice was For All Mankind and that sacrifice was For All Mankind and that for all all our ills and all all the for all all our ills and all all the for all all our ills and all all the things in our fallen nature it was a

29:03things in our fallen nature it was a things in our fallen nature it was a Redemption so you know and I believe Redemption so you know and I believe Redemption so you know and I believe that you know I I actually am you know I that you know I I actually am you know I that you know I I actually am you know I was born into a Catholic Family I'm very was born into a Catholic Family I'm very was born into a Catholic Family I'm very Christian in my beliefs you know so I do Christian in my beliefs you know so I do Christian in my beliefs you know so I do actually believe this stuff to the full actually believe this stuff to the full

29:17actually believe this stuff to the full so depicting that was an honor but it so depicting that was an honor but it so depicting that was an honor but it was also yeah you got the you got the was also yeah you got the you got the was also yeah you got the you got the Daylights beat out of your for it yeah Daylights beat out of your for it yeah Daylights beat out of your for it yeah because there's there's resistance first because there's there's resistance first because there's there's resistance first of all from secular Hollywood mhm where of all from secular Hollywood mhm where of all from secular Hollywood mhm where for whatever reason Christianity is the

29:31for whatever reason Christianity is the for whatever reason Christianity is the one religion that you're allowed to one religion that you're allowed to one religion that you're allowed to disparage yeah Christianity is the one disparage yeah Christianity is the one disparage yeah Christianity is the one religion where religion where religion where people all these Progressive open-minded people all these Progressive open-minded people all these Progressive open-minded leftist people they'll embrace all these leftist people they'll embrace all these leftist people they'll embrace all these different religions until it comes to different religions until it comes to

29:46different religions until it comes to Christianity and for whatever reason Christianity and for whatever reason Christianity and for whatever reason that represents like white that represents like white that represents like white male you know whatever it represents male you know whatever it represents male you know whatever it represents colonialism you know whatever it you colonialism you know whatever it you colonialism you know whatever it you know whatever it represents it's know whatever it represents it's know whatever it represents it's negative yeah sure it's gotten a bad rap negative yeah sure it's gotten a bad rap

30:00negative yeah sure it's gotten a bad rap and they people do feel free to beat up and they people do feel free to beat up and they people do feel free to beat up on it MH even I do when I see it's like on it MH even I do when I see it's like on it MH even I do when I see it's like you know when it's not fair when I think you know when it's not fair when I think you know when it's not fair when I think it's off right like uh you know when it's off right like uh you know when it's off right like uh you know when they appoint some Cardinal in some dasis they appoint some Cardinal in some dasis they appoint some Cardinal in some dasis and he's been covering up for like

30:16and he's been covering up for like and he's been covering up for like people who are child molesters you know people who are child molesters you know people who are child molesters you know like Theodore mccarrick or Cardinal like Theodore mccarrick or Cardinal like Theodore mccarrick or Cardinal whirl or those kind of guys I mean or whirl or those kind of guys I mean or whirl or those kind of guys I mean or the pope yes absolutely I'm I'm not the pope yes absolutely I'm I'm not the pope yes absolutely I'm I'm not Benedict oh not Ben well he was covering Benedict oh not Ben well he was covering Benedict oh not Ben well he was covering up but yeah so is the guy now is he

30:30up but yeah so is the guy now is he up but yeah so is the guy now is he really well yeah yeah it's it's not really well yeah yeah it's it's not really well yeah yeah it's it's not great I thought he was like the more great I thought he was like the more great I thought he was like the more Progressive Pope oh he's very Progressive Pope oh he's very Progressive Pope oh he's very Progressive yes but he's covering up for Progressive yes but he's covering up for Progressive yes but he's covering up for stuff as well well they they all are I stuff as well well they they all are I stuff as well well they they all are I mean it's a it's a a dark institution in

30:43mean it's a it's a a dark institution in mean it's a it's a a dark institution in a lot of ways cuz it's history you know a lot of ways cuz it's history you know a lot of ways cuz it's history you know well you know the institution it was well you know the institution it was well you know the institution it was instituted by Christ you know but that instituted by Christ you know but that instituted by Christ you know but that doesn't mean that it can't be flawed and doesn't mean that it can't be flawed and doesn't mean that it can't be flawed and there's a school of thought that there's a school of thought that there's a school of thought that says it isn't what it purports to be

30:58says it isn't what it purports to be says it isn't what it purports to be anymore it's it's moved away from what anymore it's it's moved away from what anymore it's it's moved away from what it was intended to be and what it it was intended to be and what it it was intended to be and what it is uh almost there's a guy called um is uh almost there's a guy called um is uh almost there's a guy called um Bishop vegano who says it's a Bishop vegano who says it's a Bishop vegano who says it's a counterfeit parallel counterfeit parallel counterfeit parallel church and it's it's running an entirely church and it's it's running an entirely church and it's it's running an entirely different different

31:17different religion I actually don't I don't adhere religion I actually don't I don't adhere religion I actually don't I don't adhere to a post-conciliar to a post-conciliar to a post-conciliar church I adhere can you define what that church I adhere can you define what that church I adhere can you define what that means okay um there was an event that means okay um there was an event that means okay um there was an event that happened in the in the happened in the in the happened in the in the 60s first there was an event in the 60s first there was an event in the 60s first there was an event in the Vatican where they elected John the Vatican where they elected John the

31:37Vatican where they elected John the 23d pope right in 1958 I was two years 23d pope right in 1958 I was two years 23d pope right in 1958 I was two years old right um he was elected and there old right um he was elected and there old right um he was elected and there was a very funny thing that happened in was a very funny thing that happened in was a very funny thing that happened in the conclave you know usually there's the conclave you know usually there's the conclave you know usually there's white and black smoke that goes out of white and black smoke that goes out of white and black smoke that goes out of the the chimneys to tell you we have a the the chimneys to tell you we have a

31:52the the chimneys to tell you we have a pope you know habam us pop him you know pope you know habam us pop him you know pope you know habam us pop him you know and the white smoke came out and the white smoke came out and the white smoke came out and everybody cheered and they went and everybody cheered and they went and everybody cheered and they went crazy and then about a half an hour crazy and then about a half an hour crazy and then about a half an hour later black smoke came out that never in later black smoke came out that never in later black smoke came out that never in history has that happened that the white history has that happened that the white

32:06history has that happened that the white smoke came out and then the black smoke smoke came out and then the black smoke smoke came out and then the black smoke came out so white smoke means we found a came out so white smoke means we found a came out so white smoke means we found a new pope black smoke means no Pope new pope black smoke means no Pope new pope black smoke means no Pope that's right they'd have votes or that's right they'd have votes or that's right they'd have votes or there'd be one reason or another they'd there'd be one reason or another they'd there'd be one reason or another they'd have a round in the conclave and black have a round in the conclave and black

32:18have a round in the conclave and black smoke would come out many times many smoke would come out many times many smoke would come out many times many times maybe maybe it would take two times maybe maybe it would take two times maybe maybe it would take two weeks but never was it known that white weeks but never was it known that white weeks but never was it known that white smoke came out then black smoke came out smoke came out then black smoke came out smoke came out then black smoke came out so what was the so what was the so what was the scenario that somebody was scenario that somebody was scenario that somebody was elected and that maybe something else

32:36elected and that maybe something else elected and that maybe something else happened and he was pushed aside and happened and he was pushed aside and happened and he was pushed aside and someone else was put in ah so it was someone else was put in ah so it was someone else was put in ah so it was power struggle some kind of power power struggle some kind of power power struggle some kind of power struggle and um of course the man who struggle and um of course the man who struggle and um of course the man who came out was a man called Angela ronali came out was a man called Angela ronali came out was a man called Angela ronali and he was John the 23rd now it's

32:50and he was John the 23rd now it's and he was John the 23rd now it's interesting to note that never had a interesting to note that never had a interesting to note that never had a pope taken the name of another Pope ever pope taken the name of another Pope ever pope taken the name of another Pope ever before in history but this man man took before in history but this man man took before in history but this man man took the name of a known anti-pop from the the name of a known anti-pop from the the name of a known anti-pop from the 15th century that kmo deedi put in there 15th century that kmo deedi put in there 15th century that kmo deedi put in there as his own man I'll get you in the chair

33:07as his own man I'll get you in the chair as his own man I'll get you in the chair and then everything will be Rosy you and then everything will be Rosy you and then everything will be Rosy you know everything will go good for know everything will go good for know everything will go good for business you know whatever he was business you know whatever he was business you know whatever he was putting him in there for some corrupt putting him in there for some corrupt putting him in there for some corrupt reason but um and there have been reason but um and there have been reason but um and there have been corrupt men in that place before I mean corrupt men in that place before I mean

33:17corrupt men in that place before I mean there's Alexander I 6 and Julius II and there's Alexander I 6 and Julius II and there's Alexander I 6 and Julius II and 6us I fourth I mean some of these guys 6us I fourth I mean some of these guys 6us I fourth I mean some of these guys are you know they're not Saints um so he are you know they're not Saints um so he are you know they're not Saints um so he took the name of a known anti-pop from took the name of a known anti-pop from took the name of a known anti-pop from the fifth century who actually said yes the fifth century who actually said yes the fifth century who actually said yes I'm an anti-pop sorry I'm not the right

33:33I'm an anti-pop sorry I'm not the right I'm an anti-pop sorry I'm not the right guy because there was more than one and guy because there was more than one and guy because there was more than one and he confessed to being and he wanted to he confessed to being and he wanted to he confessed to being and he wanted to you know Square things with with the you know Square things with with the you know Square things with with the Almighty I guess so he confessed to Almighty I guess so he confessed to Almighty I guess so he confessed to being an anti-pop and uh so he took the being an anti-pop and uh so he took the being an anti-pop and uh so he took the same name as that guy John the

33:48same name as that guy John the same name as that guy John the 23rd so it's interesting don't you think 23rd so it's interesting don't you think 23rd so it's interesting don't you think I mean I why would he do that well I mean I why would he do that well I mean I why would he do that well whenever you have that kind of power whenever you have that kind of power whenever you have that kind of power like I'm sure you've been to the Vatican like I'm sure you've been to the Vatican like I'm sure you've been to the Vatican right yeah it's stunning yes it's huge right yeah it's stunning yes it's huge right yeah it's stunning yes it's huge it's so cra when you're walking around

34:01it's so cra when you're walking around it's so cra when you're walking around you see the just the massive amount just you see the just the massive amount just you see the just the massive amount just the dollar value in the art that they the dollar value in the art that they the dollar value in the art that they possess yeah it's [ __ ] insane it's possess yeah it's [ __ ] insane it's possess yeah it's [ __ ] insane it's crazy yeah and uh you know it's a very crazy yeah and uh you know it's a very crazy yeah and uh you know it's a very small country it's a country yeah it's a small country it's a country yeah it's a

34:16small country it's a country yeah it's a country inside of a small City yeah cuz country inside of a small City yeah cuz country inside of a small City yeah cuz Rome's not the biggest city no and then Rome's not the biggest city no and then Rome's not the biggest city no and then it's got a country inside the city yeah it's got a country inside the city yeah it's got a country inside the city yeah with a with walls around it sure and you with a with walls around it sure and you with a with walls around it sure and you can't extradite people yeah pretty weird can't extradite people yeah pretty weird can't extradite people yeah pretty weird how convenient yeah even ratzinger he

34:33how convenient yeah even ratzinger he how convenient yeah even ratzinger he didn't drive from the Vatican to the didn't drive from the Vatican to the didn't drive from the Vatican to the other place he flew o and it was only a other place he flew o and it was only a other place he flew o and it was only a little while cuz who knows why I don't little while cuz who knows why I don't little while cuz who knows why I don't know well he was wanted yes yeah I mean know well he was wanted yes yeah I mean know well he was wanted yes yeah I mean he had done one of the things that he he had done one of the things that he he had done one of the things that he had done was he had moved a priest that

34:51had done was he had moved a priest that had done was he had moved a priest that had molested a hundred kids and he moved had molested a hundred kids and he moved had molested a hundred kids and he moved him to some new place where he molested him to some new place where he molested him to some new place where he molested deaf kids deaf kids deaf kids yeah yeah boy yeah yeah I know that's yeah yeah boy yeah yeah I know that's yeah yeah boy yeah yeah I know that's the the dirtiest most evil practice that the the dirtiest most evil practice that the the dirtiest most evil practice that the Catholic church has been accused of the Catholic church has been accused of

35:06the Catholic church has been accused of I think so and many institutions as well I think so and many institutions as well I think so and many institutions as well but that is a very bad one and uh I but that is a very bad one and uh I but that is a very bad one and uh I think it's all part and parcel of the think it's all part and parcel of the think it's all part and parcel of the same corruption that crept in and when same corruption that crept in and when same corruption that crept in and when you asked what's the difference between you asked what's the difference between you asked what's the difference between prev Vatican 2 so Vatican 2 happened and

35:22prev Vatican 2 so Vatican 2 happened and prev Vatican 2 so Vatican 2 happened and of course they they took the church and of course they they took the church and of course they they took the church and they they reformed it they they reformed it they they reformed it and they changed things in it and it and they changed things in it and it and they changed things in it and it didn't necessarily agree with everything didn't necessarily agree with everything didn't necessarily agree with everything that went before that went before that went before it and up to that point yeah you could it and up to that point yeah you could

35:37it and up to that point yeah you could find it agreed with itself but all of a find it agreed with itself but all of a find it agreed with itself but all of a sudden you got something else to the sudden you got something else to the sudden you got something else to the point we now I point we now I point we now I mean I mean we got a pope that brought a mean I mean we got a pope that brought a mean I mean we got a pope that brought a a South American Idol into the church to a South American Idol into the church to a South American Idol into the church to worship really he did the pcha mama he worship really he did the pcha mama he

35:55worship really he did the pcha mama he bought the South and he got know what bought the South and he got know what bought the South and he got know what that is it's a it's kind of like a South that is it's a it's kind of like a South that is it's a it's kind of like a South American God patcha mam say any why American God patcha mam say any why American God patcha mam say any why would he do would he do would he do that good question but he did did he that good question but he did did he that good question but he did did he have an explanation for why he did it have an explanation for why he did it have an explanation for why he did it yeah it's kind of a weasel worded thing

36:12yeah it's kind of a weasel worded thing yeah it's kind of a weasel worded thing of like oh all religions are just as of like oh all religions are just as of like oh all religions are just as good as one another but you know if good as one another but you know if good as one another but you know if that's his contention he shouldn't be that's his contention he shouldn't be that's his contention he shouldn't be the pope no I mean how can you be the the pope no I mean how can you be the the pope no I mean how can you be the pope if you say all religions are just pope if you say all religions are just pope if you say all religions are just as good yeah we all worship you know so

36:24as good yeah we all worship you know so as good yeah we all worship you know so yeah that's patcha Mama there you go so yeah that's patcha Mama there you go so yeah that's patcha Mama there you go so he brought that in yeah into the Vatican he brought that in yeah into the Vatican he brought that in yeah into the Vatican then the Hier he the hierarch even then the Hier he the hierarch even then the Hier he the hierarch even worshiped that they had a ceremony worshiped that they had a ceremony worshiped that they had a ceremony around it outside what well that around it outside what well that around it outside what well that constitutes apostasy J it's that's an

36:37constitutes apostasy J it's that's an constitutes apostasy J it's that's an apostasy move all right worshiping false apostasy move all right worshiping false apostasy move all right worshiping false gods yeah that's number one on the gods yeah that's number one on the gods yeah that's number one on the Mosaic Hit List you know Moses goes up Mosaic Hit List you know Moses goes up Mosaic Hit List you know Moses goes up on the mountain he comes back down on the mountain he comes back down on the mountain he comes back down people are worshiping in a golden calf people are worshiping in a golden calf people are worshiping in a golden calf yeah you know it's it's that yeah so you

36:51yeah you know it's it's that yeah so you yeah you know it's it's that yeah so you can't do that and uh for me that's a can't do that and uh for me that's a can't do that and uh for me that's a departure departure departure from what you know that's called from what you know that's called from what you know that's called apostasy it's a falling away from it and apostasy it's a falling away from it and apostasy it's a falling away from it and the Very nature of apostasy means that the Very nature of apostasy means that the Very nature of apostasy means that you have to be part of it to fall away you have to be part of it to fall away

37:06you have to be part of it to fall away from it mhm so it's an inside job from it mhm so it's an inside job from it mhm so it's an inside job ah so what do you think there's a motive ah so what do you think there's a motive ah so what do you think there's a motive Behind these things I don't think you Behind these things I don't think you Behind these things I don't think you well probably what do you think it is I well probably what do you think it is I well probably what do you think it is I don't know but it isn't good I think don't know but it isn't good I think don't know but it isn't good I think look I think we're we we're looking at a look I think we're we we're looking at a

37:25look I think we're we we're looking at a world where world where world where and this is the in the next film I'm and this is the in the next film I'm and this is the in the next film I'm going to do I'm going to try and Tackle going to do I'm going to try and Tackle going to do I'm going to try and Tackle this this this question that there are big Realms question that there are big Realms question that there are big Realms spiritual Realms there's good there's spiritual Realms there's good there's spiritual Realms there's good there's evil and they are slugging it evil and they are slugging it evil and they are slugging it out for the souls of mankind and my

37:46out for the souls of mankind and my out for the souls of mankind and my question is why are we even important question is why are we even important question is why are we even important little old flawed Humanity why are we little old flawed Humanity why are we little old flawed Humanity why are we important in that process where the big important in that process where the big important in that process where the big Realms are slugging it out over us and I Realms are slugging it out over us and I Realms are slugging it out over us and I think there's bigger things at play think there's bigger things at play think there's bigger things at play here and institutions that purport to

38:05here and institutions that purport to here and institutions that purport to touch on the Divine are necessarily touch on the Divine are necessarily touch on the Divine are necessarily going to be affected by that slugfest going to be affected by that slugfest going to be affected by that slugfest that's going on between good and evil that's going on between good and evil that's going on between good and evil right and and sometimes good gives up right and and sometimes good gives up right and and sometimes good gives up ground yeah and maybe not on purpose you ground yeah and maybe not on purpose you ground yeah and maybe not on purpose you know maybe there's some deception

38:20know maybe there's some deception know maybe there's some deception involved or self deception coed every involved or self deception coed every involved or self deception coed every morning when I wake up I actually pray morning when I wake up I actually pray morning when I wake up I actually pray that I don't deceive myself that I don't deceive myself that I don't deceive myself you know because it's like you know your you know because it's like you know your you know because it's like you know your mind is a very funny place I mean mind is a very funny place I mean mind is a very funny place I mean there's uh I've always said you know there's uh I've always said you know

38:35there's uh I've always said you know it's your second thought and your first it's your second thought and your first it's your second thought and your first action that that you're responsible for action that that you're responsible for action that that you're responsible for your first thought throw it away you your first thought throw it away you your first thought throw it away you know right but upon consideration yeah know right but upon consideration yeah know right but upon consideration yeah the second thought is what you're the second thought is what you're the second thought is what you're responsible for yeah that's the responsible for yeah that's the

38:49responsible for yeah that's the difference between first degree and difference between first degree and difference between first degree and second degree murder there you go second degree murder there you go second degree murder there you go right right there first degree like I'm right right there first degree like I'm right right there first degree like I'm plotting this out and we we take that plotting this out and we we take that plotting this out and we we take that into consideration when we sentence into consideration when we sentence into consideration when we sentence people sure like if you're a person who people sure like if you're a person who

39:01people sure like if you're a person who just you're all of a sudden you're in a just you're all of a sudden you're in a just you're all of a sudden you're in a fight with a guy you didn't expect it fight with a guy you didn't expect it fight with a guy you didn't expect it and you stab him and kill him second and you stab him and kill him second and you stab him and kill him second degree murder yeah but if you're like degree murder yeah but if you're like degree murder yeah but if you're like I'm going to kill this [ __ ] I'm I'm going to kill this [ __ ] I'm I'm going to kill this [ __ ] I'm going to find out where he is and I'm going to find out where he is and I'm

39:11going to find out where he is and I'm going to go get him first degree sure I going to go get him first degree sure I going to go get him first degree sure I planned a lot of murders in my life you planned a lot of murders in my life you planned a lot of murders in my life you know we all have yeah in your head you know we all have yeah in your head you know we all have yeah in your head you plan the murder and you think well plan the murder and you think well plan the murder and you think well that's not a very good idea but I think that's not a very good idea but I think that's not a very good idea but I think I could get away with it right there's I could get away with it right there's

39:22I could get away with it right there's the second thought yeah that is the second thought yeah that is the second thought yeah that is interesting that we take that into interesting that we take that into interesting that we take that into consideration yeah that we do like if consideration yeah that we do like if consideration yeah that we do like if you've had time to think about it you're you've had time to think about it you're you've had time to think about it you're a different kind of person the person a different kind of person the person a different kind of person the person acts in the ACT sure you're in your acts in the ACT sure you're in your

39:34acts in the ACT sure you're in your animal passion yes and I found this out animal passion yes and I found this out animal passion yes and I found this out I actually spent a long time in my I actually spent a long time in my I actually spent a long time in my animal brain which is a very horrible animal brain which is a very horrible animal brain which is a very horrible place to be and um when you say that place to be and um when you say that place to be and um when you say that what do you mean by youve spent a long what do you mean by youve spent a long what do you mean by youve spent a long time in your animal brain you're in time in your animal brain you're in

39:48time in your animal brain you're in flight or fight right all the time you flight or fight right all the time you flight or fight right all the time you don't even sleep it's like really not a don't even sleep it's like really not a don't even sleep it's like really not a good place to be and if anybody looks at good place to be and if anybody looks at good place to be and if anybody looks at you the wrong way you want to bite them you the wrong way you want to bite them you the wrong way you want to bite them yeah and sometimes you say and do things yeah and sometimes you say and do things yeah and sometimes you say and do things that are socially that are socially

40:04that are socially unacceptable and you know I went and got unacceptable and you know I went and got unacceptable and you know I went and got a brain scan by this guy called Daniel a brain scan by this guy called Daniel a brain scan by this guy called Daniel Amen who's this brain guy he's against Amen who's this brain guy he's against Amen who's this brain guy he's against all psych meds and stuff but he thinks all psych meds and stuff but he thinks all psych meds and stuff but he thinks like let me have a look at your brain like let me have a look at your brain like let me have a look at your brain and he put a radioactive tracer in me and he put a radioactive tracer in me

40:16and he put a radioactive tracer in me whoa and to photograph my brain he works whoa and to photograph my brain he works whoa and to photograph my brain he works yeah he works with a lot of football yeah he works with a lot of football yeah he works with a lot of football players and guys who had brain injuries players and guys who had brain injuries players and guys who had brain injuries man it's thirsty in man it's thirsty in man it's thirsty in here but but um so he he looked at my here but but um so he he looked at my here but but um so he he looked at my brain and he was like and he opens the brain and he was like and he opens the

40:33brain and he was like and he opens the file and I'm in there with the guy and file and I'm in there with the guy and file and I'm in there with the guy and he looks up and he goes are you he looks up and he goes are you he looks up and he goes are you okay and he go first no first he went okay and he go first no first he went okay and he go first no first he went like this and I said what and he are you like this and I said what and he are you like this and I said what and he are you okay like that and I said yeah I think okay like that and I said yeah I think okay like that and I said yeah I think so and he he came over and he sat next so and he he came over and he sat next

40:49so and he he came over and he sat next to me but very slowly and cautiously he to me but very slowly and cautiously he to me but very slowly and cautiously he says no you're not and I said what do says no you're not and I said what do says no you're not and I said what do you mean he says you got the worst case you mean he says you got the worst case you mean he says you got the worst case of PTS I've have ever seen and I said of PTS I've have ever seen and I said of PTS I've have ever seen and I said you mean like even worse than guys in Mo you mean like even worse than guys in Mo you mean like even worse than guys in Mo and [ __ ] like that and he goes yeah and

41:04and [ __ ] like that and he goes yeah and and [ __ ] like that and he goes yeah and he he he says you're not okay Jesus Christ and says you're not okay Jesus Christ and says you're not okay Jesus Christ and and I was like and I and I started I and I was like and I and I started I and I was like and I and I started I started to well up you know like no no started to well up you know like no no started to well up you know like no no I'm not it's like oh boy and it was uh I'm not it's like oh boy and it was uh I'm not it's like oh boy and it was uh he had a very miraculous and uh great he had a very miraculous and uh great

41:23he had a very miraculous and uh great remedy for it which was to eat a bunch remedy for it which was to eat a bunch remedy for it which was to eat a bunch of fish oil vitamin B complex and get of fish oil vitamin B complex and get of fish oil vitamin B complex and get into a hyperbaric chamber for 40 into a hyperbaric chamber for 40 into a hyperbaric chamber for 40 sessions but make sure you do at least sessions but make sure you do at least sessions but make sure you do at least two or three a week ah it fixed my head two or three a week ah it fixed my head two or three a week ah it fixed my head really yeah it got me out of that wacky really yeah it got me out of that wacky

41:41really yeah it got me out of that wacky place you know so it was something to do place you know so it was something to do place you know so it was something to do with nutrition and oxygen and yeah and with nutrition and oxygen and yeah and with nutrition and oxygen and yeah and your brain is neuroplastic he he your brain is neuroplastic he he your brain is neuroplastic he he explained neuroplasticity to me and how explained neuroplasticity to me and how explained neuroplasticity to me and how okay you could get brain damage and like okay you could get brain damage and like okay you could get brain damage and like holes in your head and all you know holes in your head and all you know

41:55holes in your head and all you know concuss I used to play rugby ah I've concuss I used to play rugby ah I've concuss I used to play rugby ah I've been knocked out on the field a couple been knocked out on the field a couple been knocked out on the field a couple of times you know that explains a lot of times you know that explains a lot of times you know that explains a lot you know yeah and um you know yeah and um you know yeah and um so it actually you can actually heal the so it actually you can actually heal the so it actually you can actually heal the holes in your head it look like swiss holes in your head it look like swiss

42:10holes in your head it look like swiss cheese in it's like horrible there L A cheese in it's like horrible there L A cheese in it's like horrible there L A lot of these football players get like lot of these football players get like lot of these football players get like that too the poor guys I mean they get that too the poor guys I mean they get that too the poor guys I mean they get depressed and they oh yeah you know oh depressed and they oh yeah you know oh depressed and they oh yeah you know oh yeah hormonal imbalance pituitary glands yeah hormonal imbalance pituitary glands yeah hormonal imbalance pituitary glands [ __ ] up oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah

42:22[ __ ] up oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah [ __ ] up oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah not producing testosterone or human not producing testosterone or human not producing testosterone or human growth hormone correctly that's correct growth hormone correctly that's correct growth hormone correctly that's correct yeah depression low energy yep yeah depression low energy yep yeah depression low energy yep irritability irritability when I kill irritability irritability when I kill irritability irritability when I kill somebody you know it's like terrible you somebody you know it's like terrible you somebody you know it's like terrible you know and uh and it's just not socially

42:36know and uh and it's just not socially know and uh and it's just not socially acceptable plus I don't want to go to acceptable plus I don't want to go to acceptable plus I don't want to go to prison yeah well the rugby I bet that's prison yeah well the rugby I bet that's prison yeah well the rugby I bet that's a a giant Factor uh yeah I I played from a a giant Factor uh yeah I I played from a a giant Factor uh yeah I I played from like 13 to probably in my late teens and like 13 to probably in my late teens and like 13 to probably in my late teens and and you get knocked around a little 100% and you get knocked around a little 100%

42:49and you get knocked around a little 100% yeah there's no if fans or butts about yeah there's no if fans or butts about yeah there's no if fans or butts about that no helmet no you know well people that no helmet no you know well people that no helmet no you know well people don't realize like even shots to the don't realize like even shots to the don't realize like even shots to the chest cause brain damage oh yeah yeah chest cause brain damage oh yeah yeah chest cause brain damage oh yeah yeah that's what people are realizing now that's what people are realizing now that's what people are realizing now yeah sure I mean you know and like I'm yeah sure I mean you know and like I'm

43:02yeah sure I mean you know and like I'm addicted to the UFC right I love it but addicted to the UFC right I love it but addicted to the UFC right I love it but I know that these guys are I I feel kind I know that these guys are I I feel kind I know that these guys are I I feel kind of sorry for them I do as well and and of sorry for them I do as well and and of sorry for them I do as well and and one of the guys I I knew one of the guys one of the guys I I knew one of the guys one of the guys I I knew one of the guys fairly well and usually I'm pretty fairly well and usually I'm pretty fairly well and usually I'm pretty immune to like but like he was in there

43:20immune to like but like he was in there immune to like but like he was in there and he was fighting against volovski it and he was fighting against volovski it and he was fighting against volovski it was Brian Ortega and he was getting his was Brian Ortega and he was getting his was Brian Ortega and he was getting his ass handed to him in one fight he almost ass handed to him in one fight he almost ass handed to him in one fight he almost almost got him a couple of times but almost got him a couple of times but almost got him a couple of times but like yeah he almost submitted him twice like yeah he almost submitted him twice

43:30like yeah he almost submitted him twice yeah I know but because I knew Brian it yeah I know but because I knew Brian it yeah I know but because I knew Brian it was like my CH it was like my son was in was like my CH it was like my son was in was like my CH it was like my son was in there I almost started crying I was and there I almost started crying I was and there I almost started crying I was and it got to me I was like I should it got to me I was like I should it got to me I was like I should probably feel like this about all these probably feel like this about all these probably feel like this about all these guys but I don't know them as well it guys but I don't know them as well it

43:42guys but I don't know them as well it becomes a problem for me when I'm becomes a problem for me when I'm becomes a problem for me when I'm friends with a guy and then and then friends with a guy and then and then friends with a guy and then and then also I see when they're on the tail end also I see when they're on the tail end also I see when they're on the tail end of their career and they can't take of their career and they can't take of their career and they can't take shots anymore and then when you talk to shots anymore and then when you talk to shots anymore and then when you talk to them you recognize the speech patterns them you recognize the speech patterns

43:52them you recognize the speech patterns are are are slurring yeah yeah I met Muhammad Ali slurring yeah yeah I met Muhammad Ali slurring yeah yeah I met Muhammad Ali when he was in a chair you know o and when he was in a chair you know o and when he was in a chair you know o and um man I don't know if I could even tell um man I don't know if I could even tell um man I don't know if I could even tell this story what he said was so funny but this story what he said was so funny but this story what he said was so funny but he was still in there and he was still a he was still in there and he was still a he was still in there and he was still a little devil and he was like uh and he

44:09little devil and he was like uh and he little devil and he was like uh and he was still he was still [ __ ] with was still he was still [ __ ] with was still he was still [ __ ] with people of course but it was like uh I I people of course but it was like uh I I people of course but it was like uh I I can't tell the story you can't no man can't tell the story you can't no man can't tell the story you can't no man okay footnote it tell me later I'll tell okay footnote it tell me later I'll tell okay footnote it tell me later I'll tell you later it is funny but it was my you later it is funny but it was my you later it is funny but it was my assistant you know it's what he said to

44:23assistant you know it's what he said to assistant you know it's what he said to my assistant was like so funny and um my assistant was like so funny and um my assistant was like so funny and um and and then he said it and we all were and and then he said it and we all were and and then he said it and we all were like whoa and then I looked at him and like whoa and then I looked at him and like whoa and then I looked at him and he was just laughing he was laughing his he was just laughing he was laughing his he was just laughing he was laughing his ass off so he was still all in there but ass off so he was still all in there but

44:36ass off so he was still all in there but it was hard I guess he had the damage of it was hard I guess he had the damage of it was hard I guess he had the damage of being punched yeah trauma related being punched yeah trauma related being punched yeah trauma related Parkinson's disease yes very common for Parkinson's disease yes very common for Parkinson's disease yes very common for Fighters God oh no yeah yeah yeah it's Fighters God oh no yeah yeah yeah it's Fighters God oh no yeah yeah yeah it's not good I got knocked out when I in a not good I got knocked out when I in a not good I got knocked out when I in a fight when I was like 20 and it was like

44:52fight when I was like 20 and it was like fight when I was like 20 and it was like knocked out like out and it was uh you knocked out like out and it was uh you knocked out like out and it was uh you know I woke up in the know I woke up in the know I woke up in the hospital not good no well a few of those hospital not good no well a few of those hospital not good no well a few of those will explain a lot yes it does yeah and will explain a lot yes it does yeah and will explain a lot yes it does yeah and we didn't know that you know back then we didn't know that you know back then we didn't know that you know back then that's why it always drives me crazy in

45:09that's why it always drives me crazy in that's why it always drives me crazy in a movie when someone gets hit over the a movie when someone gets hit over the a movie when someone gets hit over the head with a gun and knocked out and then head with a gun and knocked out and then head with a gun and knocked out and then five minutes later they're fighting and five minutes later they're fighting and five minutes later they're fighting and they're fine you know or shot in the arm they're fine you know or shot in the arm they're fine you know or shot in the arm you know got to kill you you know that you know got to kill you you know that

45:18you know got to kill you you know that always makes me laugh too but we used to always makes me laugh too but we used to always makes me laugh too but we used to do it you know well you kind of have to do it you know well you kind of have to do it you know well you kind of have to right it's like part of the whole thing right it's like part of the whole thing right it's like part of the whole thing of telling a movie you got to sure I of telling a movie you got to sure I of telling a movie you got to sure I mean mean mean Michelle Docker even brains Mark Michelle Docker even brains Mark Michelle Docker even brains Mark Wahlberg with a fire extinguisher at one

45:31Wahlberg with a fire extinguisher at one Wahlberg with a fire extinguisher at one point it's yeah he's back you know point it's yeah he's back you know point it's yeah he's back you know brains him shoots him oh yeah he's a brains him shoots him oh yeah he's a brains him shoots him oh yeah he's a cockroach you can't kill him it takes a cockroach you can't kill him it takes a cockroach you can't kill him it takes a lot more we you'll find out yeah but uh lot more we you'll find out yeah but uh lot more we you'll find out yeah but uh we're you know people used to think that we're you know people used to think that we're you know people used to think that concussions are just something you

45:48concussions are just something you concussions are just something you recover from like no big deal you get a recover from like no big deal you get a recover from like no big deal you get a concussion take a break for a little concussion take a break for a little concussion take a break for a little while you'll be fine you might not be while you'll be fine you might not be while you'll be fine you might not be fine no you're not I got a concussion at fine no you're not I got a concussion at fine no you're not I got a concussion at my daughter's my daughter's my daughter's wedding this is really weird okay so wedding this is really weird okay so

46:00wedding this is really weird okay so she's getting married married a great she's getting married married a great she's getting married married a great guy they got a great family and um a guy they got a great family and um a guy they got a great family and um a buddy of mine from Australia comes to buddy of mine from Australia comes to buddy of mine from Australia comes to the wedding and he goes comes up and I I the wedding and he goes comes up and I I the wedding and he goes comes up and I I go to hug him and he he Ducks down and go to hug him and he he Ducks down and go to hug him and he he Ducks down and he comes up and he puts his shoulder he comes up and he puts his shoulder

46:14he comes up and he puts his shoulder into the point of my chin the guy weighs into the point of my chin the guy weighs into the point of my chin the guy weighs 240 and he puts his shoulder into the 240 and he puts his shoulder into the 240 and he puts his shoulder into the point of my chin and knocks me the [ __ ] point of my chin and knocks me the [ __ ] point of my chin and knocks me the [ __ ] out Jesus Christ I'm out Jesus Christ I'm out Jesus Christ I'm like and like for the next four months like and like for the next four months like and like for the next four months I'm messed up I have to get like a guy I'm messed up I have to get like a guy

46:29I'm messed up I have to get like a guy to work cranial sacral you know fix me to work cranial sacral you know fix me to work cranial sacral you know fix me up and stuff like that it really messed up and stuff like that it really messed up and stuff like that it really messed me [ __ ] Australians yeah yeah there me [ __ ] Australians yeah yeah there me [ __ ] Australians yeah yeah there you go wild folk worse than Germans yeah you go wild folk worse than Germans yeah you go wild folk worse than Germans yeah they just wild ex prisoners yeah yeah they just wild ex prisoners yeah yeah they just wild ex prisoners yeah yeah wild prisoner of mother England yeah wild prisoner of mother England yeah

46:44wild prisoner of mother England yeah yeah anyway so this this story that you yeah anyway so this this story that you yeah anyway so this this story that you want to tell about Good and Evil like do want to tell about Good and Evil like do want to tell about Good and Evil like do you have a script or is it just a thing you have a script or is it just a thing you have a script or is it just a thing in your head like what is it yeah it's in your head like what is it yeah it's in your head like what is it yeah it's it's it's the resurrection story and but it's it's the resurrection story and but it's it's the resurrection story and but it's it's uh it's not just it's not

47:01it's it's uh it's not just it's not it's it's uh it's not just it's not linear because you can't really it's linear because you can't really it's linear because you can't really it's hard to understand so it's got to be put hard to understand so it's got to be put hard to understand so it's got to be put in a in a in a framework where you answer a few other framework where you answer a few other framework where you answer a few other questions as well and you have to questions as well and you have to questions as well and you have to juxtapose the event itself against juxtapose the event itself against juxtapose the event itself against everything else so that it makes some

47:22everything else so that it makes some everything else so that it makes some kind of sense in in a bigger picture kind of sense in in a bigger picture kind of sense in in a bigger picture which is a hard thing to do and it took which is a hard thing to do and it took which is a hard thing to do and it took my brother and I about and and a guy my brother and I about and and a guy my brother and I about and and a guy called Randall Wallace plus my brother called Randall Wallace plus my brother called Randall Wallace plus my brother and I took us six seven years to write and I took us six seven years to write and I took us six seven years to write it so are you doing this with historians

47:38it so are you doing this with historians it so are you doing this with historians as well are you trying to make it yeah as well are you trying to make it yeah as well are you trying to make it yeah yeah yeah historical stuff well I regard yeah yeah historical stuff well I regard yeah yeah historical stuff well I regard I regard the gospel says history it's I regard the gospel says history it's I regard the gospel says history it's verifiable history some people say oh verifiable history some people say oh verifiable history some people say oh it's a fairy tale he never existed but it's a fairy tale he never existed but

47:48it's a fairy tale he never existed but he did and there are other accounts he did and there are other accounts he did and there are other accounts verifiable historical accounts outside verifiable historical accounts outside verifiable historical accounts outside the biblical ones that also bear this up the biblical ones that also bear this up the biblical ones that also bear this up that yes he did exist and um and and the that yes he did exist and um and and the that yes he did exist and um and and the other aspect of that is that the all the other aspect of that is that the all the other aspect of that is that the all the evangelists the apostles who went out

48:05evangelists the apostles who went out evangelists the apostles who went out there um every single one of those guys there um every single one of those guys there um every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief and died rather than deny their belief and died rather than deny their belief and nobody dies for a lie nobody right so nobody dies for a lie nobody right so nobody dies for a lie nobody right so that's part of what I'm doing it's like that's part of what I'm doing it's like that's part of what I'm doing it's like showing nobody dies for a lie yeah well showing nobody dies for a lie yeah well

48:23showing nobody dies for a lie yeah well the resurrection is the one that is the the resurrection is the one that is the the resurrection is the one that is the most diff difficult for people to most diff difficult for people to most diff difficult for people to swallow yes that is the one that swallow yes that is the one that swallow yes that is the one that requires the most Faith the most faith requires the most Faith the most faith requires the most Faith the most faith and the most belief yeah Resurrection and the most belief yeah Resurrection and the most belief yeah Resurrection yeah who who who gets back up three days yeah who who who gets back up three days

48:37yeah who who who gets back up three days later after he gets murdered in public later after he gets murdered in public later after he gets murdered in public um who gets back up under his own power um who gets back up under his own power um who gets back up under his own power Buddha didn't do that [ __ ] right you Buddha didn't do that [ __ ] right you Buddha didn't do that [ __ ] right you know so you believe that was a real know so you believe that was a real know so you believe that was a real event yeah I do yeah what brought you to event yeah I do yeah what brought you to event yeah I do yeah what brought you to that belief is this something that that belief is this something that

48:53that belief is this something that you've always had or is it something you you've always had or is it something you you've always had or is it something you you studied it and you've come to this you studied it and you've come to this you studied it and you've come to this conclusion because of the historical conclusion because of the historical conclusion because of the historical accounts and yes uh I think as a child accounts and yes uh I think as a child accounts and yes uh I think as a child you know one accepts things on faith you know one accepts things on faith you know one accepts things on faith because you know you're raised by people because you know you're raised by people

49:08because you know you're raised by people who are nice to you and they believe it who are nice to you and they believe it who are nice to you and they believe it and my dad was a pretty smart guy he was and my dad was a pretty smart guy he was and my dad was a pretty smart guy he was like Mena smart you know like real smart like Mena smart you know like real smart like Mena smart you know like real smart like back in 1968 he won Jeopardy right like back in 1968 he won Jeopardy right like back in 1968 he won Jeopardy right and then really and then they brought and then really and then they brought and then really and then they brought all the Jeopardy winners back and he

49:22all the Jeopardy winners back and he all the Jeopardy winners back and he played all the winners and he beat all played all the winners and he beat all played all the winners and he beat all of them too so he had a mind like a of them too so he had a mind like a of them too so he had a mind like a steel trap steel trap steel trap and his memory was practically and his memory was practically and his memory was practically photographic my memory is pornographic photographic my memory is pornographic photographic my memory is pornographic but it's like it's like his his was like but it's like it's like his his was like but it's like it's like his his was like I don't have that that kind of mind

49:36I don't have that that kind of mind I don't have that that kind of mind right um but I'm more like he did math right um but I'm more like he did math right um but I'm more like he did math and you know I can't add but and you know I can't add but and you know I can't add but uh um so as a child you learn um these uh um so as a child you learn um these uh um so as a child you learn um these things and you accept them on faith and things and you accept them on faith and things and you accept them on faith and I still have that Faith but as I got I still have that Faith but as I got I still have that Faith but as I got older I came to it through intellect and

49:56older I came to it through intellect and older I came to it through intellect and through reading and putting things through reading and putting things through reading and putting things together and accounts and then together and accounts and then together and accounts and then occurrences like in my own life you know occurrences like in my own life you know occurrences like in my own life you know I mean just recently they verified the I mean just recently they verified the I mean just recently they verified the shroud of Trin have you seen that I've shroud of Trin have you seen that I've shroud of Trin have you seen that I've been reading about it and I know that

50:10been reading about it and I know that been reading about it and I know that there's some contention there's some there's some contention there's some there's some contention there's some some discussion and debate about it but some discussion and debate about it but some discussion and debate about it but they used to think that it was only a they used to think that it was only a they used to think that it was only a couple hundred years old and now they've couple hundred years old and now they've couple hundred years old and now they've they've changed that yeah they said no they've changed that yeah they said no they've changed that yeah they said no it it's back then they also don't

50:23it it's back then they also don't it it's back then they also don't understand how it was made which to me understand how it was made which to me understand how it was made which to me is very fascinating it's not paintt it's is very fascinating it's not paintt it's is very fascinating it's not paintt it's not they don't know what caused the not they don't know what caused the not they don't know what caused the image itself and how that technology image itself and how that technology image itself and how that technology would have even been available it wasn't would have even been available it wasn't would have even been available it wasn't yeah a couple thousand years ago an

50:37yeah a couple thousand years ago an yeah a couple thousand years ago an intense light I mean intense light I mean intense light I mean Atomic to leave almost like a Atomic to leave almost like a Atomic to leave almost like a photographic imprint on a piece of cloth photographic imprint on a piece of cloth photographic imprint on a piece of cloth yeah and it's wild pull that up pull the yeah and it's wild pull that up pull the yeah and it's wild pull that up pull the shroud of turn up oh yeah it's wild to shroud of turn up oh yeah it's wild to shroud of turn up oh yeah it's wild to look at because it's it's so interesting look at because it's it's so interesting

50:52look at because it's it's so interesting oh oh oh yeah and you can see it yeah and you can see it yeah and you can see it that it that it that it depicts a first century Hebrew male depicts a first century Hebrew male depicts a first century Hebrew male because the hairstyle was from the first because the hairstyle was from the first because the hairstyle was from the first century and a Hebrew hairstyle that he century and a Hebrew hairstyle that he century and a Hebrew hairstyle that he was about 6 feet tall that he was was about 6 feet tall that he was was about 6 feet tall that he was completely scourged all over his body he completely scourged all over his body he

51:10completely scourged all over his body he was was was crucified um the one on the left is the crucified um the one on the left is the crucified um the one on the left is the one on the right is just like an one on the right is just like an one on the right is just like an artistic rendition that's the face yeah artistic rendition that's the face yeah artistic rendition that's the face yeah click on that one the face the face yeah click on that one the face the face yeah click on that one the face the face yeah that's good enough get that large that's that's good enough get that large that's that's good enough get that large that's [ __ ] crazy yeah yeah scourged beaten

51:27[ __ ] crazy yeah yeah scourged beaten [ __ ] crazy yeah yeah scourged beaten a CRA the the wounds on the the Thorns a CRA the the wounds on the the Thorns a CRA the the wounds on the the Thorns the hands the feet uh and and the the hands the feet uh and and the the hands the feet uh and and the scourging and the the the hairstyle was scourging and the the the hairstyle was scourging and the the the hairstyle was from the first century and the pollins from the first century and the pollins from the first century and the pollins that they found in the cloth were from that they found in the cloth were from that they found in the cloth were from that region yeah uh also the weave was a

51:46that region yeah uh also the weave was a that region yeah uh also the weave was a first century weave that was typical and first century weave that was typical and first century weave that was typical and another guy an archaeologist who I knew another guy an archaeologist who I knew another guy an archaeologist who I knew who actually translated the passion in who actually translated the passion in who actually translated the passion in Aramaic told me that Aramaic told me that Aramaic told me that if you look close you can see the the if you look close you can see the the if you look close you can see the the the image of a tiberious coin marks on the image of a tiberious coin marks on

52:02the image of a tiberious coin marks on the eyes now I don't know if that's real the eyes now I don't know if that's real the eyes now I don't know if that's real or not I've never actually checked that or not I've never actually checked that or not I've never actually checked that but that there's images of tiberious on but that there's images of tiberious on but that there's images of tiberious on the coin so they would put the coins the coin so they would put the coins the coin so they would put the coins over the eyes yeah so that would date it over the eyes yeah so that would date it over the eyes yeah so that would date it uh but they have now verified that it

52:17uh but they have now verified that it uh but they have now verified that it does actually go back to that time does actually go back to that time does actually go back to that time period for a while they were testing period for a while they were testing period for a while they were testing pieces that had been repaired in the pieces that had been repaired in the pieces that had been repaired in the 13th century or right you know what is 13th century or right you know what is 13th century or right you know what is the latest on that Jamie can you see see the latest on that Jamie can you see see the latest on that Jamie can you see see like I I was trying to get that I had I

52:28like I I was trying to get that I had I like I I was trying to get that I had I have two different articles from within have two different articles from within have two different articles from within the last 6 months saying opposite yeah the last 6 months saying opposite yeah the last 6 months saying opposite yeah opposite of course know which one opposite of course know which one opposite of course know which one sounded the most accurate well it's such sounded the most accurate well it's such sounded the most accurate well it's such a crazy thing to even try to verify like a crazy thing to even try to verify like

52:42a crazy thing to even try to verify like what are you like what are you saying what are you like what are you saying what are you like what are you saying you're saying that this is really the you're saying that this is really the you're saying that this is really the Shroud that Jesus was covered in so Shroud that Jesus was covered in so Shroud that Jesus was covered in so you're saying Jesus historically you're saying Jesus historically you're saying Jesus historically absolutely did exist and we think that absolutely did exist and we think that absolutely did exist and we think that this is the Shroud that covered him that this is the Shroud that covered him that

52:54this is the Shroud that covered him that just that alone people incredulity just that alone people incredulity just that alone people incredulity people immediately they they they their people immediately they they they their people immediately they they they their hackles raised like wait a minute wait a hackles raised like wait a minute wait a hackles raised like wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute and they just minute wait a minute and they just minute wait a minute and they just instead of like looking at it instead of like looking at it instead of like looking at it objectively they don't almost always objectively they don't almost always

53:05objectively they don't almost always want to look at it from a point of view want to look at it from a point of view want to look at it from a point of view of dis disproving it immediately of dis disproving it immediately of dis disproving it immediately dismissing it immediately but that's you dismissing it immediately but that's you dismissing it immediately but that's you know that's science isn't it you have to know that's science isn't it you have to know that's science isn't it you have to sort of you know you play The Devil's sort of you know you play The Devil's sort of you know you play The Devil's Advocate and and that's okay go for it Advocate and and that's okay go for it

53:16Advocate and and that's okay go for it you know um do you are you aware of you know um do you are you aware of you know um do you are you aware of Graham Hancock oh no Graham Hancock is Graham Hancock oh no Graham Hancock is Graham Hancock oh no Graham Hancock is uh he's sort of a historian that has a uh he's sort of a historian that has a uh he's sort of a historian that has a very uh he's got a series on Netflix very uh he's got a series on Netflix very uh he's got a series on Netflix he's a fascinating guy and his his he's a fascinating guy and his his he's a fascinating guy and his his career started because he was career started because he was

53:34career started because he was investigating this these accounts in investigating this these accounts in investigating this these accounts in Ethiopia of the Ark of the Covenant and Ethiopia of the Ark of the Covenant and Ethiopia of the Ark of the Covenant and that they believe the Ark of the that they believe the Ark of the that they believe the Ark of the Covenant is in this one church that's Covenant is in this one church that's Covenant is in this one church that's protected by all these monks that wind protected by all these monks that wind protected by all these monks that wind up getting cataracts and radiation up getting cataracts and radiation

53:48up getting cataracts and radiation disease and sickness and they think that disease and sickness and they think that disease and sickness and they think that it's because they're protecting this Arc it's because they're protecting this Arc it's because they're protecting this Arc of the Covenant this this actual thing of the Covenant this this actual thing of the Covenant this this actual thing that it's an actual physical thing that it's an actual physical thing that it's an actual physical thing that's there and if you touch it you get that's there and if you touch it you get that's there and if you touch it you get zapped yeah yeah and that even being in

54:01zapped yeah yeah and that even being in zapped yeah yeah and that even being in its presence [ __ ] these people up maybe its presence [ __ ] these people up maybe its presence [ __ ] these people up maybe maybe who knows I mean it's got to be maybe who knows I mean it's got to be maybe who knows I mean it's got to be someplace right they buried it they lost someplace right they buried it they lost someplace right they buried it they lost track of it yeah but uh man it used to track of it yeah but uh man it used to track of it yeah but uh man it used to be and and all the stories are if you be and and all the stories are if you

54:13be and and all the stories are if you even touched it you fall over you know even touched it you fall over you know even touched it you fall over you know cuz it constructed electrically somehow cuz it constructed electrically somehow cuz it constructed electrically somehow yeah like what is that what's in there yeah like what is that what's in there yeah like what is that what's in there yeah why why is it giving people cancer yeah why why is it giving people cancer yeah why why is it giving people cancer if they're really protecting it I think if they're really protecting it I think if they're really protecting it I think it's the actual structure of the it's the actual structure of the

54:24it's the actual structure of the container it's in that that is the container it's in that that is the container it's in that that is the problem that's my thought on I could be problem that's my thought on I could be problem that's my thought on I could be wrong but I think inside it they wrong but I think inside it they wrong but I think inside it they have things from like uh when Moses was have things from like uh when Moses was have things from like uh when Moses was like mana and you know stuff like that like mana and you know stuff like that like mana and you know stuff like that that they they managed to keep from like that they they managed to keep from like

54:43that they they managed to keep from like for example they they say that

54:51uh that golgatha the place where the uh that golgatha the place where the crucifixion happened it's called crucifixion happened it's called crucifixion happened it's called golgatha the place of the skull because golgatha the place of the skull because golgatha the place of the skull because that's where Adam's head is that's where Adam's head is that's where Adam's head is buried really yes and that that it's buried really yes and that that it's buried really yes and that that it's also perhaps the same also perhaps the same also perhaps the same place and and it it tells you it's kind place and and it it tells you it's kind

55:08place and and it it tells you it's kind of in the same area where Abraham almost of in the same area where Abraham almost of in the same area where Abraham almost sacrifices Isaac oh so it's interesting sacrifices Isaac oh so it's interesting sacrifices Isaac oh so it's interesting yeah and it's uh and and the cross when yeah and it's uh and and the cross when yeah and it's uh and and the cross when in any artistic depiction at the foot of in any artistic depiction at the foot of in any artistic depiction at the foot of the cross underneath it is the skull the cross underneath it is the skull the cross underneath it is the skull uh representing the skull of Adam huh so

55:31uh representing the skull of Adam huh so uh representing the skull of Adam huh so it's interesting it's interesting it's interesting yeah yeah there it is yeah that's the yeah yeah there it is yeah that's the yeah yeah there it is yeah that's the skull of Adam huh yep wow place of the skull of Adam huh yep wow place of the skull of Adam huh yep wow place of the skull memory myth in the chapel of Adam skull memory myth in the chapel of Adam skull memory myth in the chapel of Adam what did you uh find on the shroud of what did you uh find on the shroud of what did you uh find on the shroud of Torin Torin Torin Jamie both those articles just asked Jamie both those articles just asked

55:48Jamie both those articles just asked like one person like one re researcher like one person like one re researcher like one person like one re researcher thought it was another researcher based thought it was another researcher based thought it was another researcher based off of their research said it wasn't can off of their research said it wasn't can off of their research said it wasn't can you put it to the one that thought it you put it to the one that thought it you put it to the one that thought it was um so the one who thought it was is was um so the one who thought it was is was um so the one who thought it was is a like a like a like aarch a nuclear researcher Jesus Christ

56:06aarch a nuclear researcher Jesus Christ aarch a nuclear researcher Jesus Christ the other one was like a AI artist from the other one was like a AI artist from the other one was like a AI artist from Brazil yeah so I I don't know who has Brazil yeah so I I don't know who has Brazil yeah so I I don't know who has the the the most so it says study published in the most so it says study published in the most so it says study published in the journal Heritage the authors conducted journal Heritage the authors conducted journal Heritage the authors conducted dating work on a sample from the Shroud dating work on a sample from the Shroud

56:18dating work on a sample from the Shroud coming to the conclusion that it may be coming to the conclusion that it may be coming to the conclusion that it may be a 2,000-year-old relic the Shroud which a 2,000-year-old relic the Shroud which a 2,000-year-old relic the Shroud which has long been the subject of intense has long been the subject of intense has long been the subject of intense scrutiny features a faint image of a man scrutiny features a faint image of a man scrutiny features a faint image of a man some believe is the body of Jesus some believe is the body of Jesus some believe is the body of Jesus miraculously imprinted onto the cloth miraculously imprinted onto the cloth

56:29miraculously imprinted onto the cloth while the latest study does not discuss while the latest study does not discuss while the latest study does not discuss the question whether or not the artifact the question whether or not the artifact the question whether or not the artifact was indeed Jesus's b b uh burial shroud was indeed Jesus's b b uh burial shroud was indeed Jesus's b b uh burial shroud specifically the authors did find its specifically the authors did find its specifically the authors did find its age is roughly consistent with his time age is roughly consistent with his time age is roughly consistent with his time [Music] [Music] [Music] oh yeah yeah I think isn't the

56:46oh yeah yeah I think isn't the oh yeah yeah I think isn't the smithonian guy all for it I don't know smithonian guy all for it I don't know smithonian guy all for it I don't know maybe that's him I don't know but uh maybe that's him I don't know but uh maybe that's him I don't know but uh yeah there's for and against there's yeah there's for and against there's yeah there's for and against there's always been yeah yeah always but it's always been yeah yeah always but it's always been yeah yeah always but it's just but the but the but the image is just but the but the but the image is just but the but the but the image is like yeah it's pretty crazy yeah like yeah it's pretty crazy yeah

57:01like yeah it's pretty crazy yeah whatever it is is pretty crazy and the whatever it is is pretty crazy and the whatever it is is pretty crazy and the fact that they don't know how they made fact that they don't know how they made fact that they don't know how they made it is also pretty crazy yeah it's not a it is also pretty crazy yeah it's not a it is also pretty crazy yeah it's not a painting no then not not exactly sure painting no then not not exactly sure painting no then not not exactly sure how it even came about yeah it had to how it even came about yeah it had to how it even came about yeah it had to have been some kind of intense light have been some kind of intense light

57:13have been some kind of intense light well the the thought was that even well the the thought was that even well the the thought was that even trying to replicate something like that trying to replicate something like that trying to replicate something like that today would be incredibly difficult to today would be incredibly difficult to today would be incredibly difficult to do sure it's like an x-ray vision you do sure it's like an x-ray vision you do sure it's like an x-ray vision you know it's like an x-ray that's what it know it's like an x-ray that's what it know it's like an x-ray that's what it they you only see you really see it in they you only see you really see it in

57:25they you only see you really see it in the negative only right you know right the negative only right you know right the negative only right you know right it's like a negative yeah yeah H it's like a negative yeah yeah H it's like a negative yeah yeah H hey I buy it but but but that's not the hey I buy it but but but that's not the hey I buy it but but but that's not the only reason I buy it I mean I think you only reason I buy it I mean I think you only reason I buy it I mean I think you know there's other logical reasons why I know there's other logical reasons why I know there's other logical reasons why I why I believe so like what are those oh why I believe so like what are those oh

57:45why I believe so like what are those oh okay stuff that happens in your own okay stuff that happens in your own okay stuff that happens in your own life the results you life the results you life the results you get from actually get from actually get from actually appealing to a power greater than appealing to a power greater than appealing to a power greater than yourself you know and I mean I don't yourself you know and I mean I don't yourself you know and I mean I don't think it's any secret I am flawed in the think it's any secret I am flawed in the think it's any secret I am flawed in the fact that I am by Nature born an fact that I am by Nature born an

58:04fact that I am by Nature born an alcoholic right I did drugs I did alcoholic right I did drugs I did alcoholic right I did drugs I did alcohol so and there was nothing that alcohol so and there was nothing that alcohol so and there was nothing that could could could stop me from doing stop me from doing stop me from doing that nothing so I was really kind of on that nothing so I was really kind of on that nothing so I was really kind of on you're on a downhill you're on a downhill you're on a downhill run so I regard the fact that I was able run so I regard the fact that I was able run so I regard the fact that I was able to appeal to something greater than

58:24to appeal to something greater than to appeal to something greater than myself to help me and actually stop me myself to help me and actually stop me myself to help me and actually stop me doing that I think that's a miracle it doing that I think that's a miracle it doing that I think that's a miracle it is for me it is and for many you know so is for me it is and for many you know so is for me it is and for many you know so well that is the thing about AA right well that is the thing about AA right well that is the thing about AA right it's it's a part of the whole process is it's it's a part of the whole process is

58:38it's it's a part of the whole process is appealing to a higher power sure it's appealing to a higher power sure it's appealing to a higher power sure it's spiritual program because you're spiritual program because you're spiritual program because you're suffering your spiritual malady you know suffering your spiritual malady you know suffering your spiritual malady you know yeah so it's a spiritual yeah so it's a spiritual yeah so it's a spiritual cure and that's the essence I think of cure and that's the essence I think of cure and that's the essence I think of why it why it why it works because you can't explain it works because you can't explain it

58:55works because you can't explain it otherwise I mean it's well you kind of otherwise I mean it's well you kind of otherwise I mean it's well you kind of can but

59:05um I think what you're being asked to do um I think what you're being asked to do is to think is to think is to think about other people and other things more about other people and other things more about other people and other things more than yourself because it's kind of an than yourself because it's kind of an than yourself because it's kind of an ego disease yeah so if you that is the ego disease yeah so if you that is the ego disease yeah so if you that is the problem with addiction right it's very problem with addiction right it's very problem with addiction right it's very narcissistic very narciss you're narcissistic very narciss you're

59:18narcissistic very narciss you're constantly thinking about yourself and constantly thinking about yourself and constantly thinking about yourself and what you need I need a drink I need a what you need I need a drink I need a what you need I need a drink I need a bump I need a you know I need something bump I need a you know I need something bump I need a you know I need something sure I need and no matter what you need sure I need and no matter what you need sure I need and no matter what you need it's never going to be enough right it's never going to be enough right it's never going to be enough right right so you actually have to appeal to right so you actually have to appeal to

59:31right so you actually have to appeal to something outside that you consider something outside that you consider something outside that you consider bigger and better than yourself which bigger and better than yourself which bigger and better than yourself which instantly kind of pushes you more in the instantly kind of pushes you more in the instantly kind of pushes you more in the direction of humility because because direction of humility because because direction of humility because because you're not the center of the universe you're not the center of the universe you're not the center of the universe anymore right and that you can't do it anymore right and that you can't do it

59:47anymore right and that you can't do it and the first step in any of that sort and the first step in any of that sort and the first step in any of that sort of stuff is accepting that you are of stuff is accepting that you are of stuff is accepting that you are powerless over it that's the first powerless over it that's the first powerless over it that's the first that's the first uh that's the most that's the first uh that's the most that's the first uh that's the most power powerful step you can do is that power powerful step you can do is that power powerful step you can do is that you're powerless when you realize that you're powerless when you realize that

59:59you're powerless when you realize that you're like okay yeah there's [ __ ] all I you're like okay yeah there's [ __ ] all I you're like okay yeah there's [ __ ] all I can do about this I have to appeal to can do about this I have to appeal to can do about this I have to appeal to something better than me and that to me something better than me and that to me something better than me and that to me is a is a is a miracle yeah yeah well it's a very miracle yeah yeah well it's a very miracle yeah yeah well it's a very uniquely human thing the ability to uniquely human thing the ability to uniquely human thing the ability to course correct and also just the the

01:00:13course correct and also just the the course correct and also just the the concept of addiction in the first place concept of addiction in the first place concept of addiction in the first place sure you know it's a very uniquely human sure you know it's a very uniquely human sure you know it's a very uniquely human thing that we all know there's dark thing that we all know there's dark thing that we all know there's dark roads our mind can go down and then we roads our mind can go down and then we roads our mind can go down and then we wonder like what is the purpose of these wonder like what is the purpose of these

01:00:24wonder like what is the purpose of these dark thoughts what is the purpose of dark thoughts what is the purpose of dark thoughts what is the purpose of this destructive behavior that we're all this destructive behavior that we're all this destructive behavior that we're all prone to in some way shape or form what prone to in some way shape or form what prone to in some way shape or form what is the purpose of everything I mean like is the purpose of everything I mean like is the purpose of everything I mean like I mean why am I here what's the meaning I mean why am I here what's the meaning I mean why am I here what's the meaning of this and I'm looking for purpose and

01:00:39of this and I'm looking for purpose and of this and I'm looking for purpose and and uh what is it we're here for I think and uh what is it we're here for I think and uh what is it we're here for I think you know we have to leave some stuff but you know we have to leave some stuff but you know we have to leave some stuff but you have to leave some good stuff you you have to leave some good stuff you you have to leave some good stuff you can leave plenty of bad stuff you know can leave plenty of bad stuff you know can leave plenty of bad stuff you know and it's uh and we're all prone that way and it's uh and we're all prone that way

01:00:54and it's uh and we're all prone that way I often think about you know the human I often think about you know the human I often think about you know the human race as a whole you know you think about race as a whole you know you think about race as a whole you know you think about guys like you know Stalin or Hitler or guys like you know Stalin or Hitler or guys like you know Stalin or Hitler or chairman Mau or and I'm I'm pretty sure chairman Mau or and I'm I'm pretty sure chairman Mau or and I'm I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be sharing a cell in I'm not going to be sharing a cell in I'm not going to be sharing a cell in the afterlife with those guys you know

01:01:07the afterlife with those guys you know the afterlife with those guys you know right I don't know where I'll be on the right I don't know where I'll be on the right I don't know where I'll be on the ladder but uh um depends on how you end ladder but uh um depends on how you end ladder but uh um depends on how you end up right well that's it yeah it really up right well that's it yeah it really up right well that's it yeah it really is it's it's like you know and we're is it's it's like you know and we're is it's it's like you know and we're allowed to make mistakes and we do we allowed to make mistakes and we do we allowed to make mistakes and we do we are so flawed and I am I I'm more flawed

01:01:23are so flawed and I am I I'm more flawed are so flawed and I am I I'm more flawed than anyone you know but it's uh um than anyone you know but it's uh um than anyone you know but it's uh um something that you I think and it's something that you I think and it's something that you I think and it's pretty safe to say I'm in the third act pretty safe to say I'm in the third act pretty safe to say I'm in the third act now you're in act two right go do tight now you're in act two right go do tight now you're in act two right go do tight but I'm I'm like I'm in the third act but I'm I'm like I'm in the third act but I'm I'm like I'm in the third act man so you got you have to think

01:01:40man so you got you have to think man so you got you have to think about the other side you to think about about the other side you to think about about the other side you to think about what comes next is there a next yes what comes next is there a next yes what comes next is there a next yes there is I believe there is and I think there is I believe there is and I think there is I believe there is and I think it's U uh depends on how you live it's U uh depends on how you live it's U uh depends on how you live now and uh and the beauty now and uh and the beauty now and uh and the beauty of believing is

01:02:05that even for your transgressions you that even for your transgressions you can be can be can be forgiven and you can be redeemed but forgiven and you can be redeemed but forgiven and you can be redeemed but it's all up here right you know is the it's all up here right you know is the it's all up here right you know is the true acceptance and understanding of true acceptance and understanding of true acceptance and understanding of what you've done and what you should do what you've done and what you should do what you've done and what you should do sure you have to look at yourself sure you have to look at yourself sure you have to look at yourself honestly yeah yeah yeah absolutely

01:02:22honestly yeah yeah yeah absolutely honestly yeah yeah yeah absolutely honestly you have to be able to accuse honestly you have to be able to accuse honestly you have to be able to accuse use use use yourself and uh and understand that yourself and uh and understand that yourself and uh and understand that there is there it's a great deal of there is there it's a great deal of there is there it's a great deal of Mercy involved in the fact that I Mercy involved in the fact that I Mercy involved in the fact that I believe that God believe that God believe that God sent his son down to tell us okay I'm sent his son down to tell us okay I'm

01:02:41sent his son down to tell us okay I'm going to Ransom you people from your going to Ransom you people from your going to Ransom you people from your Fallen nature and um and I'll give you a Fallen nature and um and I'll give you a Fallen nature and um and I'll give you a road map on how to do road map on how to do road map on how to do it and it and it and um and people do it there's even people um and people do it there's even people um and people do it there's even people that do it that I've never even heard of that do it that I've never even heard of that do it that I've never even heard of it you know some guy in the jungle some it you know some guy in the jungle some

01:03:00it you know some guy in the jungle some place I'm sure right you place I'm sure right you place I'm sure right you know know know because the Creator is above the because the Creator is above the because the Creator is above the law me it's an interesting fact to note law me it's an interesting fact to note law me it's an interesting fact to note that the first canonized Saint you know that the first canonized Saint you know that the first canonized Saint you know who it was no the first ever confirmed who it was no the first ever confirmed who it was no the first ever confirmed canonization as a canonization as a canonization as a saint was dismus you know dismus was no

01:03:27saint was dismus you know dismus was no saint was dismus you know dismus was no he was hanging he was the thief on the he was hanging he was the thief on the he was hanging he was the thief on the cross next to Jesus Oh and he says to cross next to Jesus Oh and he says to cross next to Jesus Oh and he says to him you're going to be okay this day him you're going to be okay this day him you're going to be okay this day you'll be with me unbaptized Criminal you'll be with me unbaptized Criminal you'll be with me unbaptized Criminal all that stuff so wow the lawmaker is all that stuff so wow the lawmaker is all that stuff so wow the lawmaker is above the above the

01:03:44above the law so there's a lot of law so there's a lot of law so there's a lot of Mercy what about people that never Mercy what about people that never Mercy what about people that never experience Christianity what about the experience Christianity what about the experience Christianity what about the the uncontacted people that's right the uncontacted people that's right the uncontacted people that's right that's what I'm saying some guy in the that's what I'm saying some guy in the that's what I'm saying some guy in the Le yeah it's been Le yeah it's been Le yeah it's been known that uh it's called Invincible known that uh it's called Invincible

01:04:02known that uh it's called Invincible ignorance because they don't know what ignorance because they don't know what ignorance because they don't know what the truth is MHM you know it's possible the truth is MHM you know it's possible the truth is MHM you know it's possible that they can that they can that they can be saved as well I you know so what are be saved as well I you know so what are be saved as well I you know so what are your thoughts on your thoughts on your thoughts on Evolution

01:04:25W the Darwin thing yeah I don't really W the Darwin thing yeah I don't really go for it no yeah Ice Age dinosaurs you go for it no yeah Ice Age dinosaurs you go for it no yeah Ice Age dinosaurs you know what did they turn know what did they turn know what did they turn into I into I into I mean things became extinct at some point mean things became extinct at some point mean things became extinct at some point I don't think I was some kind of I don't think I was some kind of I don't think I was some kind of like you know legless thing that crawled like you know legless thing that crawled like you know legless thing that crawled out of the ocean I don't think I came

01:04:44out of the ocean I don't think I came out of the ocean I don't think I came from that I think I was created do you from that I think I was created do you from that I think I was created do you think other things were legless things think other things were legless things think other things were legless things that came out of the ocean do you think that came out of the ocean do you think that came out of the ocean do you think like multi-celled organisms came out of like multi-celled organisms came out of like multi-celled organisms came out of single celled organisms single celled organisms single celled organisms and there was some sort of a natural and there was some sort of a natural

01:04:58and there was some sort of a natural selection and random mutation and it led selection and random mutation and it led selection and random mutation and it led to everything else but us sure look at to everything else but us sure look at to everything else but us sure look at gain of function right you can like you gain of function right you can like you gain of function right you can like you can make stuff happen and I'm sure stuff can make stuff happen and I'm sure stuff can make stuff happen and I'm sure stuff did happen um but I think it's all part did happen um but I think it's all part did happen um but I think it's all part of creation I think it's all ordered I

01:05:17of creation I think it's all ordered I of creation I think it's all ordered I think anyone left anything left to think anyone left anything left to think anyone left anything left to itself without some kind of intelligence itself without some kind of intelligence itself without some kind of intelligence behind it will devolve into chaos and so behind it will devolve into chaos and so behind it will devolve into chaos and so that there has to be some big that there has to be some big that there has to be some big intelligence that orchestrates intelligence that orchestrates intelligence that orchestrates everything not that we don't have chaos everything not that we don't have chaos

01:05:31everything not that we don't have chaos in the world but I think that's our own

01:05:37making but what do you think separates making but what do you think separates us from all the other creatures wow I us from all the other creatures wow I us from all the other creatures wow I think we have a soul we're created with think we have a soul we're created with think we have a soul we're created with a a a soul um and you know I went to a soul um and you know I went to a soul um and you know I went to a restaurant last night it was a restaurant last night it was a restaurant last night it was a steakhouse in steakhouse in steakhouse in Austin and it was interesting because Austin and it was interesting because Austin and it was interesting because all the pictures on the wall are

01:05:56all the pictures on the wall are all the pictures on the wall are pictures of animals that look resentful pictures of animals that look resentful pictures of animals that look resentful like cows and steers staring at you like cows and steers staring at you like cows and steers staring at you looking angry as you rip into a looking angry as you rip into a looking angry as you rip into a stake but stake but stake but um I just believe we we are higher than um I just believe we we are higher than um I just believe we we are higher than those creatures because we have a soul those creatures because we have a soul those creatures because we have a soul we have an intellect above theirs and uh

01:06:15we have an intellect above theirs and uh we have an intellect above theirs and uh and we aspire to to higher things we and we aspire to to higher things we and we aspire to to higher things we have we have aspirations right um and have we have aspirations right um and have we have aspirations right um and you know this is part of why people you know this is part of why people you know this is part of why people drink and smoke and do dope and all this drink and smoke and do dope and all this drink and smoke and do dope and all this kind of stuff is because they're looking kind of stuff is because they're looking kind of stuff is because they're looking for a a spiritual experience they're

01:06:29for a a spiritual experience they're for a a spiritual experience they're looking for like they actually call looking for like they actually call looking for like they actually call alcohol Spirits I mean it's they're alcohol Spirits I mean it's they're alcohol Spirits I mean it's they're looking for something higher and I think looking for something higher and I think looking for something higher and I think we all have that yearning in that we we all have that yearning in that we we all have that yearning in that we want to be happy and uh we want to be at want to be happy and uh we want to be at want to be happy and uh we want to be at peace and we want everything to be hunky

01:06:44peace and we want everything to be hunky peace and we want everything to be hunky dory so there's this yearning in buil in dory so there's this yearning in buil in dory so there's this yearning in buil in all of us for all of us for all of us for that to Aspire to something that to Aspire to something that to Aspire to something greater and that's why we're inspired by greater and that's why we're inspired by greater and that's why we're inspired by stories I think because it's like U you stories I think because it's like U you stories I think because it's like U you know Hero Stories you know Joseph know Hero Stories you know Joseph

01:07:00know Hero Stories you know Joseph Campbell stuff the hero with a thousand Campbell stuff the hero with a thousand Campbell stuff the hero with a thousand faces and stuff it's like these stories faces and stuff it's like these stories faces and stuff it's like these stories Inspire us I met I I was at a party the Inspire us I met I I was at a party the Inspire us I met I I was at a party the other day in in uh in Tennessee and you other day in in uh in Tennessee and you other day in in uh in Tennessee and you think Tennessee what's going to happen think Tennessee what's going to happen think Tennessee what's going to happen there it's going to be squeal like a pig

01:07:16there it's going to be squeal like a pig there it's going to be squeal like a pig no man there's some people live in no man there's some people live in no man there's some people live in Tennessee sure but like amazing people Tennessee sure but like amazing people Tennessee sure but like amazing people and I found myself in a conversation and I found myself in a conversation and I found myself in a conversation with four tier one dudes with four tier one dudes with four tier one dudes all of who did something all of who did something all of who did something extraordinary and it was that Tom extraordinary and it was that Tom

01:07:31extraordinary and it was that Tom Slatterly guy it was the Blackhawk Down Slatterly guy it was the Blackhawk Down Slatterly guy it was the Blackhawk Down guy there was Shawn Ryan who's he's got guy there was Shawn Ryan who's he's got guy there was Shawn Ryan who's he's got you probably heard of this guy friend of you probably heard of this guy friend of you probably heard of this guy friend of his yeah right yeah there was his yeah right yeah there was his yeah right yeah there was um a guy called Christian craige head um a guy called Christian craige head um a guy called Christian craige head you know who that guy is no whoa and you know who that guy is no whoa and

01:07:47you know who that guy is no whoa and then there was uh then there was uh then there was uh Eddie they wrote a book about him Eddie Eddie they wrote a book about him Eddie Eddie they wrote a book about him Eddie gallager Gallagher Yeah Eddie Gallagher gallager Gallagher Yeah Eddie Gallagher gallager Gallagher Yeah Eddie Gallagher I was talking to four of these guys at I was talking to four of these guys at I was talking to four of these guys at the same time and I didn't know who to the same time and I didn't know who to the same time and I didn't know who to who do you even talk who do you even talk who do you even talk to but their stories are amazing to but their stories are amazing

01:08:05to but their stories are amazing especially and the one guy I ended up especially and the one guy I ended up especially and the one guy I ended up talking to was an sas guy British talking to was an sas guy British talking to was an sas guy British SAS he just looks like a bank SAS he just looks like a bank SAS he just looks like a bank teller but he did something teller but he did something teller but he did something extraordinary and in incredibly Brave extraordinary and in incredibly Brave extraordinary and in incredibly Brave and uh and with no regard for himself and uh and with no regard for himself and uh and with no regard for himself only regard for other people and it was

01:08:25only regard for other people and it was only regard for other people and it was like like like whoow you hear these stories and it's whoow you hear these stories and it's whoow you hear these stories and it's sort of just like it pumps you up you sort of just like it pumps you up you sort of just like it pumps you up you think would I could I do that could I be think would I could I do that could I be think would I could I do that could I be that person I don't know if I could I that person I don't know if I could I that person I don't know if I could I don't in in a way I don't even want to don't in in a way I don't even want to

01:08:38don't in in a way I don't even want to ever find out because you have to be in ever find out because you have to be in ever find out because you have to be in an extreme situation right but um but an extreme situation right but um but an extreme situation right but um but hearing about other people and how they hearing about other people and how they hearing about other people and how they behave in situations that are difficult behave in situations that are difficult behave in situations that are difficult is very inspiring so you know it's uh is very inspiring so you know it's uh is very inspiring so you know it's uh yeah there's so many of those stories

01:08:57yeah there's so many of those stories yeah there's so many of those stories around and through history well that's around and through history well that's around and through history well that's another unique thing about human beings another unique thing about human beings another unique thing about human beings is that we learn from others in a very is that we learn from others in a very is that we learn from others in a very extraordinary way and that's one of the extraordinary way and that's one of the extraordinary way and that's one of the reasons why we like stories yeah why we reasons why we like stories yeah why we

01:09:07reasons why we like stories yeah why we like myths and fables because there's like myths and fables because there's like myths and fables because there's there's lessons you can apply to your there's lessons you can apply to your there's lessons you can apply to your own life without having to actually go own life without having to actually go own life without having to actually go through those things yeah well that's through those things yeah well that's through those things yeah well that's right I made a film about that guy um uh right I made a film about that guy um uh right I made a film about that guy um uh Desmond Doss you know I don't know if Desmond Doss you know I don't know if

01:09:20Desmond Doss you know I don't know if you saw it it was like hacksaw Ridge it you saw it it was like hacksaw Ridge it you saw it it was like hacksaw Ridge it was this film and it was about a medic was this film and it was about a medic was this film and it was about a medic who figured so much killing going on who figured so much killing going on who figured so much killing going on he's going to go into the battlefield he's going to go into the battlefield he's going to go into the battlefield and save lives and he didn't have a and save lives and he didn't have a and save lives and he didn't have a weapon and he was in the worst place on weapon and he was in the worst place on

01:09:33weapon and he was in the worst place on Earth and he he got a a a Congressional Earth and he he got a a a Congressional Earth and he he got a a a Congressional Medal of Honor because he kept going in Medal of Honor because he kept going in Medal of Honor because he kept going in to the worst place possible and dragging to the worst place possible and dragging to the worst place possible and dragging wounded guys wounded guys wounded guys out with no regard for himself I mean out with no regard for himself I mean out with no regard for himself I mean who does that kind of stuff right and who does that kind of stuff right and

01:09:49who does that kind of stuff right and over and over again he didn't just do it over and over again he didn't just do it over and over again he didn't just do it once he did it hundreds of times he of once he did it hundreds of times he of once he did it hundreds of times he of got you know hit with shrapnel and a got you know hit with shrapnel and a got you know hit with shrapnel and a bunch of other stuff but he lived to be bunch of other stuff but he lived to be bunch of other stuff but he lived to be an old man but wow and it was just pure an old man but wow and it was just pure an old man but wow and it was just pure Faith you know so you know those guys

01:10:05Faith you know so you know those guys Faith you know so you know those guys that those kind of stories Inspire the that those kind of stories Inspire the that those kind of stories Inspire the hell out of hell out of hell out of me anyway so when back to this uh idea me anyway so when back to this uh idea me anyway so when back to this uh idea of evolution so do do you believe that of evolution so do do you believe that of evolution so do do you believe that Evolution exists in

01:10:22animals do you think there's some sort animals do you think there's some sort of a natural selection process process of a natural selection process process of a natural selection process process or do you think that it is all or do you think that it is all or do you think that it is all intelligent intelligent intelligent design design design um well I think everything was um well I think everything was um well I think everything was created right and maybe things do move created right and maybe things do move created right and maybe things do move on and adapt and change through time but on and adapt and change through time but

01:10:42on and adapt and change through time but I think that that's a function of an I think that that's a function of an I think that that's a function of an intelligence intelligence intelligence also and I mean look at the fires in La also and I mean look at the fires in La also and I mean look at the fires in La you know I mean what's that going to do you know I mean what's that going to do you know I mean what's that going to do it's going to give me a new house you it's going to give me a new house you it's going to give me a new house you know maybe maybe and uh or a new place know maybe maybe and uh or a new place know maybe maybe and uh or a new place to live yeah to live yeah

01:10:59to live yeah something yeah I'm just not totally something yeah I'm just not totally something yeah I'm just not totally convinced I feel it and and I can't convinced I feel it and and I can't convinced I feel it and and I can't really I'm sorry I can't intellectually really I'm sorry I can't intellectually really I'm sorry I can't intellectually tell you why I don't believe in tell you why I don't believe in tell you why I don't believe in evolution but I don't it's just a evolution but I don't it's just a evolution but I don't it's just a feeling I don't think I was some feeling I don't think I was some feeling I don't think I was some ape or I don't think my ancestors were I

01:11:15ape or I don't think my ancestors were I ape or I don't think my ancestors were I think they had to be pretty smart to think they had to be pretty smart to think they had to be pretty smart to survive so what do you think all these survive so what do you think all these survive so what do you think all these prehuman hominids are that they keep prehuman hominids are that they keep prehuman hominids are that they keep discovering like what tell me what a discovering like what tell me what a discovering like what tell me what a prehuman homonid is Australia pithecus prehuman homonid is Australia pithecus prehuman homonid is Australia pithecus or some of the other humanik creatures

01:11:29or some of the other humanik creatures or some of the other humanik creatures that never made it like Dennis ens that never made it like Dennis ens that never made it like Dennis ens neander tals yeah yeah stuff like that neander tals yeah yeah stuff like that neander tals yeah yeah stuff like that okay well they've got something called okay well they've got something called okay well they've got something called zinjanthropus you remember him no zinjanthropus you remember him no zinjanthropus you remember him no zinjanthropus man and he was like you zinjanthropus man and he was like you zinjanthropus man and he was like you look kind of like this but it was like

01:11:43look kind of like this but it was like look kind of like this but it was like they they looked at it and they did some they they looked at it and they did some they they looked at it and they did some core samples on it and it was put out core samples on it and it was put out core samples on it and it was put out there by people advocating Evolution and there by people advocating Evolution and there by people advocating Evolution and they discovered that it was a human they discovered that it was a human they discovered that it was a human skull attached to the jaw of of an ape skull attached to the jaw of of an ape skull attached to the jaw of of an ape oh I do remember this was a HOA yeah

01:11:58oh I do remember this was a HOA yeah oh I do remember this was a HOA yeah there's been some hoaxes yeah yeah but there's been some hoaxes yeah yeah but there's been some hoaxes yeah yeah but there's also been real stuff really yeah there's also been real stuff really yeah there's also been real stuff really yeah you don't think so well maybe well what you don't think so well maybe well what you don't think so well maybe well what well you know like I don't know tell me well you know like I don't know tell me well you know like I don't know tell me uh well what was that one that we looked uh well what was that one that we looked

01:12:12uh well what was that one that we looked at the other day that was one of the at the other day that was one of the at the other day that was one of the first uh prehuman that buried their first uh prehuman that buried their first uh prehuman that buried their their their young or buried their dead their their young or buried their dead their their young or buried their dead rather it was a homo n naldi what was rather it was a homo n naldi what was rather it was a homo n naldi what was it you remember that it you remember that it you remember that I can't remember how to say it but lady I can't remember how to say it but lady

01:12:30I can't remember how to say it but lady no lady yeah there a prehuman homed very no lady yeah there a prehuman homed very no lady yeah there a prehuman homed very small creature that buried their young small creature that buried their young small creature that buried their young or buried their dead rather I keep or buried their dead rather I keep or buried their dead rather I keep saying buried their young they buried saying buried their young they buried saying buried their young they buried their dead um you know Australopithecus their dead um you know Australopithecus their dead um you know Australopithecus there's there's a bunch of different you there's there's a bunch of different you

01:12:44there's there's a bunch of different you know the Lucy skeleton there's a bunch know the Lucy skeleton there's a bunch know the Lucy skeleton there's a bunch of different prehuman hominids yeah of different prehuman hominids yeah of different prehuman hominids yeah maybe they were monkeys I don't know you maybe they were monkeys I don't know you maybe they were monkeys I don't know you know yeah well there was they're similar know yeah well there was they're similar know yeah well there was they're similar to us just not where we are they're on to us just not where we are they're on to us just not where we are they're on the road to becoming what what it means

01:12:58the road to becoming what what it means the road to becoming what what it means to be a human being yeah I don't know I to be a human being yeah I don't know I to be a human being yeah I don't know I don't know what do you think those are I don't know what do you think those are I don't know what do you think those are I don't know they could be animals or they don't know they could be animals or they don't know they could be animals or they could be like look at today I mean you could be like look at today I mean you could be like look at today I mean you can get some mosquito can bite you and can get some mosquito can bite you and

01:13:08can get some mosquito can bite you and and your kid can be born with a and your kid can be born with a and your kid can be born with a malformed skull or something it's like malformed skull or something it's like malformed skull or something it's like uh you know they have those you know uh you know they have those you know uh you know they have those you know yeah but this is like a like a genetic yeah but this is like a like a genetic yeah but this is like a like a genetic thing like they've done they've mapped thing like they've done they've mapped thing like they've done they've mapped the Genome of these creatures they're the Genome of these creatures they're

01:13:23the Genome of these creatures they're different yeah different yeah different yeah well I don't know how to explain those well I don't know how to explain those well I don't know how to explain those Joe I don't know but but you do think Joe I don't know but but you do think Joe I don't know but but you do think that human beings were created by God that human beings were created by God that human beings were created by God sure I do yeah when do you think that sure I do yeah when do you think that sure I do yeah when do you think that happened when oh probably and not that happened when oh probably and not that happened when oh probably and not that long ago really no not really like what

01:13:41long ago really no not really like what long ago really no not really like what do you mean by not that long ago do you mean by not that long ago do you mean by not that long ago probably only about 8,000 years ago probably only about 8,000 years ago probably only about 8,000 years ago really yeah so what do you think things really yeah so what do you think things really yeah so what do you think things like gockley tape are when they find like gockley tape are when they find like gockley tape are when they find these constructions that are dated these constructions that are dated these constructions that are dated carbon dated to 11,000 plus years old I

01:13:55carbon dated to 11,000 plus years old I carbon dated to 11,000 plus years old I question carbon dating really question carbon dating really question carbon dating really yeah that makes things a lot simpler yeah that makes things a lot simpler yeah that makes things a lot simpler well yeah they there yeah well there's a well yeah they there yeah well there's a well yeah they there yeah well there's a lot of money in in in you know claims lot of money in in in you know claims lot of money in in in you know claims and I don't know uh water's there and I don't know uh water's there and I don't know uh water's there yeah well carbon dating seems to be yeah well carbon dating seems to be

01:14:11yeah well carbon dating seems to be pretty Rock Solid studies yeah I mean pretty Rock Solid studies yeah I mean pretty Rock Solid studies yeah I mean science the science behind radiocarbon science the science behind radiocarbon science the science behind radiocarbon dating and detecting carbon Isotopes dating and detecting carbon Isotopes dating and detecting carbon Isotopes it's like that's pretty yeah pretty it's like that's pretty yeah pretty it's like that's pretty yeah pretty legit legit legit yeah I don't know I can't Square it yeah yeah I don't know I can't Square it yeah yeah I don't know I can't Square it yeah well you don't have to and I don't have

01:14:30well you don't have to and I don't have well you don't have to and I don't have to and I and what difference is it going to and I and what difference is it going to and I and what difference is it going to make to me yeah that's the thing it's to make to me yeah that's the thing it's to make to me yeah that's the thing it's uh it doesn't make a difference in terms uh it doesn't make a difference in terms uh it doesn't make a difference in terms of your experience in this life on Earth of your experience in this life on Earth of your experience in this life on Earth no like you you can have your faith and no like you you can have your faith and

01:14:44no like you you can have your faith and your ideas and live a great life from your ideas and live a great life from your ideas and live a great life from beginning to end and it might not suit beginning to end and it might not suit beginning to end and it might not suit you to really Ponder Evolution and all you to really Ponder Evolution and all you to really Ponder Evolution and all the puzzles and problems no the puzzles and problems no the puzzles and problems no it doesn't you know yeah and I just like it doesn't you know yeah and I just like it doesn't you know yeah and I just like you know I look at all sorts of stuff you know I look at all sorts of stuff

01:15:00you know I look at all sorts of stuff like that like you know the you know the like that like you know the you know the like that like you know the you know the icebergs melting and the water icebergs melting and the water icebergs melting and the water overflowing it's not ever have a glass overflowing it's not ever have a glass overflowing it's not ever have a glass full of ice and watch it melt did you full of ice and watch it melt did you full of ice and watch it melt did you ever see the glass flow over no takes up ever see the glass flow over no takes up ever see the glass flow over no takes up less room you know yeah you know the hot less room you know yeah you know the hot

01:15:15less room you know yeah you know the hot Greenhouse whatever you know I well Greenhouse whatever you know I well Greenhouse whatever you know I well there's a lot of horseshit that's there's a lot of horseshit that's there's a lot of horseshit that's involved in climate change for sure I've involved in climate change for sure I've involved in climate change for sure I've studied that and I've T had many studied that and I've T had many studied that and I've T had many discussions over the last four years the discussions over the last four years the discussions over the last four years the problem with anything is that one a problem with anything is that one a

01:15:25problem with anything is that one a narrative gets established and then narrative gets established and then narrative gets established and then there's a profit attached to the there's a profit attached to the there's a profit attached to the solution to that narrative yes and solution to that narrative yes and solution to that narrative yes and that's green energy and green energy that's green energy and green energy that's green energy and green energy bills and there's businesses that are bills and there's businesses that are bills and there's businesses that are wrapped around there and then there's wrapped around there and then there's

01:15:36wrapped around there and then there's also this fear that they love to pump also this fear that they love to pump also this fear that they love to pump into people about climate change that into people about climate change that into people about climate change that you know they terrify the [ __ ] out of you know they terrify the [ __ ] out of you know they terrify the [ __ ] out of young people that we're going to destroy young people that we're going to destroy young people that we're going to destroy the world and climate change you must the world and climate change you must the world and climate change you must act now and then you become beholden to

01:15:48act now and then you become beholden to act now and then you become beholden to the political party that is espousing the political party that is espousing the political party that is espousing these ideas and then their your enemy is these ideas and then their your enemy is these ideas and then their your enemy is the deniers of this science even though the deniers of this science even though the deniers of this science even though you don't even understand the science you don't even understand the science you don't even understand the science yeah and did you see the Washington Post yeah and did you see the Washington Post

01:16:00yeah and did you see the Washington Post uh article that they published recently uh article that they published recently uh article that they published recently about uh temperature change on Earth no about uh temperature change on Earth no about uh temperature change on Earth no well there's a well there's a well there's a down like what they've realized is over down like what they've realized is over down like what they've realized is over the last you know x amount of thousands the last you know x amount of thousands the last you know x amount of thousands of years that the temperature on Earth of years that the temperature on Earth

01:16:15of years that the temperature on Earth is plummeting yeah and it's dropping and is plummeting yeah and it's dropping and is plummeting yeah and it's dropping and then when they look at the the dips this then when they look at the the dips this then when they look at the the dips this is the most important thing for anybody is the most important thing for anybody is the most important thing for anybody that's really freaked out about climate that's really freaked out about climate that's really freaked out about climate change change change there's no static temperature of Earth there's no static temperature of Earth

01:16:28there's no static temperature of Earth ever there's never been a time where it ever there's never been a time where it ever there's never been a time where it maintains a temperature until human maintains a temperature until human maintains a temperature until human beings came along and [ __ ] it all up beings came along and [ __ ] it all up beings came along and [ __ ] it all up that is just not real before human that is just not real before human that is just not real before human beings ever existed if you trust these beings ever existed if you trust these beings ever existed if you trust these core samples there's been a giant rise core samples there's been a giant rise

01:16:42core samples there's been a giant rise and fall and this constant dip I there and fall and this constant dip I there and fall and this constant dip I there it is yeah scientists have captured it is yeah scientists have captured it is yeah scientists have captured earth's climate over the last 485 earth's climate over the last 485 earth's climate over the last 485 million years here's a surprising place million years here's a surprising place million years here's a surprising place we stand now look at the dip at the end we stand now look at the dip at the end we stand now look at the dip at the end whoa that's where we are that's that's whoa that's where we are that's that's

01:16:57whoa that's where we are that's that's reality and then if you look at the reality and then if you look at the reality and then if you look at the course of history you look at the rise course of history you look at the rise course of history you look at the rise and fall like it's never a straight line and fall like it's never a straight line and fall like it's never a straight line way before human beings ever existed if way before human beings ever existed if way before human beings ever existed if you believe these silly people way you believe these silly people way you believe these silly people way before human beings had ever existed before human beings had ever existed

01:17:11before human beings had ever existed there's always this rise and fall and there's always this rise and fall and there's always this rise and fall and this idea that the whole thing is based this idea that the whole thing is based this idea that the whole thing is based on carbon emissions from human beings is on carbon emissions from human beings is on carbon emissions from human beings is total [ __ ] mhm it's not true we total [ __ ] mhm it's not true we total [ __ ] mhm it's not true we might be having an effect but we're might be having an effect but we're might be having an effect but we're having a small effect a very small having a small effect a very small

01:17:27having a small effect a very small effect and the other things are effect and the other things are effect and the other things are completely outside of our control completely outside of our control completely outside of our control including solar activity the distance including solar activity the distance including solar activity the distance between the Earth and the Sun M you know between the Earth and the Sun M you know between the Earth and the Sun M you know there's a lot of factors there's there's there's a lot of factors there's there's there's a lot of factors there's there's all sorts of factors involving natural all sorts of factors involving natural

01:17:41all sorts of factors involving natural activities like volcanic emissions you activities like volcanic emissions you activities like volcanic emissions you know which devastate you know the entire know which devastate you know the entire know which devastate you know the entire human race was knocked down to a few human race was knocked down to a few human race was knocked down to a few thousand people yeah at one point in thousand people yeah at one point in thousand people yeah at one point in time because of the Toba volcano oh my time because of the Toba volcano oh my time because of the Toba volcano oh my God yes yeah no light yeah no light for God yes yeah no light yeah no light for

01:17:57God yes yeah no light yeah no light for years good luck yeah yeah good luck and years good luck yeah yeah good luck and years good luck yeah yeah good luck and the people that survive are [ __ ] the people that survive are [ __ ] the people that survive are [ __ ] barbarians yeah this most Savage and barbarians yeah this most Savage and barbarians yeah this most Savage and then they takes a long time before they then they takes a long time before they then they takes a long time before they can figure out civilization again after can figure out civilization again after can figure out civilization again after that it's like dinosaurs they just stop that it's like dinosaurs they just stop

01:18:11that it's like dinosaurs they just stop mhm so what did they evolve into mhm so what did they evolve into mhm so what did they evolve into chickens I guess Birds Raptors well they chickens I guess Birds Raptors well they chickens I guess Birds Raptors well they think a lot of dinosaurs had feathers think a lot of dinosaurs had feathers think a lot of dinosaurs had feathers now yeah that's the the newest thing now yeah that's the the newest thing now yeah that's the the newest thing yeah maybe you don't think so I don't yeah maybe you don't think so I don't yeah maybe you don't think so I don't know I need to take a pee I'm so know I need to take a pee I'm so

01:18:25know I need to take a pee I'm so desperate let's take a PE let's take a desperate let's take a PE let's take a desperate let's take a PE let's take a pee we'll take a break we'll be right pee we'll take a break we'll be right pee we'll take a break we'll be right back take a p it's a nice back take a p it's a nice back take a p it's a nice picture picture picture it's that's got to be a moment in your it's that's got to be a moment in your it's that's got to be a moment in your head where you just like every now and head where you just like every now and head where you just like every now and then just go [ __ ] yeah then just go [ __ ] yeah

01:18:40then just go [ __ ] yeah yeah it is funny yeah but it was a good yeah it is funny yeah but it was a good yeah it is funny yeah but it was a good picture the only thing that was going picture the only thing that was going picture the only thing that was going through my head through my head through my head was was was okay I can't I just can't look bad

01:18:59and I didn't have anything no grooming and I didn't have anything no grooming implements so I just tried tried my best implements so I just tried tried my best implements so I just tried tried my best to not look too bad there you to not look too bad there you to not look too bad there you go yeah you talk about humility like go yeah you talk about humility like go yeah you talk about humility like what gives you more humility than being what gives you more humility than being what gives you more humility than being publicly humiliated sure yeah public publicly humiliated sure yeah public publicly humiliated sure yeah public humiliation and it's you know what most

01:19:15humiliation and it's you know what most humiliation and it's you know what most for most people it is their number one for most people it is their number one for most people it is their number one fear sure is public humiliation yeah fear sure is public humiliation yeah fear sure is public humiliation yeah yeah yeah public speaking and because of yeah yeah public speaking and because of yeah yeah public speaking and because of that public humiliation sure yeah that public humiliation sure yeah that public humiliation sure yeah happens all the time cuz we're so happens all the time cuz we're so happens all the time cuz we're so concerned about other people's opinions

01:19:30concerned about other people's opinions concerned about other people's opinions of us I guess yeah cuz we're not our own of us I guess yeah cuz we're not our own of us I guess yeah cuz we're not our own opinions well you've been through a lot opinions well you've been through a lot opinions well you've been through a lot well so have you I mean I remember you well so have you I mean I remember you well so have you I mean I remember you know I think they were they were giving know I think they were they were giving know I think they were they were giving you a grilling once for taking Hors worm you a grilling once for taking Hors worm

01:19:41you a grilling once for taking Hors worm medicine yeah funny which yeah funny how medicine yeah funny which yeah funny how medicine yeah funny which yeah funny how that works yeah funny how that works that works yeah funny how that works that works yeah funny how that works funny how funny how that does work yeah funny how funny how that does work yeah funny how funny how that does work yeah what's really funny is uh how that was what's really funny is uh how that was what's really funny is uh how that was that de a part of the demise of that de a part of the demise of that de a part of the demise of mainstream media mhm because people were mainstream media mhm because people were

01:19:56mainstream media mhm because people were like well this is crazy this doesn't like well this is crazy this doesn't like well this is crazy this doesn't make are you guys really the news like make are you guys really the news like make are you guys really the news like what is this yes I know it seemed to be what is this yes I know it seemed to be what is this yes I know it seemed to be they seem to be complicit with a a they seem to be complicit with a a they seem to be complicit with a a 100% And you know you think well why but 100% And you know you think well why but 100% And you know you think well why but why because of money I think this is why because of money I think this is

01:20:10why because of money I think this is what we were talking about before that what we were talking about before that what we were talking about before that there is good and evil and sometimes it there is good and evil and sometimes it there is good and evil and sometimes it manifests itself in a very clear and manifests itself in a very clear and manifests itself in a very clear and obvious way and I think that's what that obvious way and I think that's what that obvious way and I think that's what that was that was evil that was putting was that was evil that was putting was that was evil that was putting people's lives second and putting money people's lives second and putting money

01:20:23people's lives second and putting money first well I I know why fou still first well I I know why fou still first well I I know why fou still walking around how is that guy still walking around how is that guy still walking around how is that guy still walking around I don't get if just walking around I don't get if just walking around I don't get if just people understand the history of the people understand the history of the people understand the history of the AIDS crisis and what that guy did back AIDS crisis and what that guy did back AIDS crisis and what that guy did back then did you read that book yeah yeah I then did you read that book yeah yeah I

01:20:35then did you read that book yeah yeah I read the book I listened to it yeah I read the book I listened to it yeah I read the book I listened to it yeah I did I drove up to San Francisco and I did I drove up to San Francisco and I did I drove up to San Francisco and I listened to it and I had road rage oh listened to it and I had road rage oh listened to it and I had road rage oh yeah and it was like whoa um how is he yeah and it was like whoa um how is he yeah and it was like whoa um how is he still there how is first of all people still there how is first of all people still there how is first of all people that don't believe it how come RFK Jr that don't believe it how come RFK Jr

01:20:49that don't believe it how come RFK Jr didn't get sued yeah how come there's no didn't get sued yeah how come there's no didn't get sued yeah how come there's no lawsuits if there was lies there would lawsuits if there was lies there would lawsuits if there was lies there would be lawsuits he'd be publicly humiliated be lawsuits he'd be publicly humiliated be lawsuits he'd be publicly humiliated instead they kept that book off instead they kept that book off instead they kept that book off bestseller lists that book sold millions bestseller lists that book sold millions bestseller lists that book sold millions of copies they hit it that's when you of copies they hit it that's when you

01:21:02of copies they hit it that's when you find out that bestseller lists are find out that bestseller lists are find out that bestseller lists are actually curated it's not really actually curated it's not really actually curated it's not really bestseller yeah it's censored it's all bestseller yeah it's censored it's all bestseller yeah it's censored it's all censored everything's censored you know censored everything's censored you know censored everything's censored you know but that book is an accurate depiction but that book is an accurate depiction but that book is an accurate depiction of what Anthony fouchy did during the of what Anthony fouchy did during the

01:21:14of what Anthony fouchy did during the AIDS crisis which probably was an a AIDS crisis which probably was an a AIDS crisis which probably was an a crisis yeah was an AE crisis I mean it's crisis yeah was an AE crisis I mean it's crisis yeah was an AE crisis I mean it's it's fairly incontrovertible now that he it's fairly incontrovertible now that he it's fairly incontrovertible now that he was fooling with gain of function 100% was fooling with gain of function 100% was fooling with gain of function 100% and you know it's you know what why is and you know it's you know what why is and you know it's you know what why is he still around right uh or at least he still around right uh or at least

01:21:31he still around right uh or at least free right right and no repercussions free right right and no repercussions free right right and no repercussions yeah whatever happened to that story yeah whatever happened to that story yeah whatever happened to that story where you know the wombat and and the where you know the wombat and and the where you know the wombat and and the weasel got together and they were weasel got together and they were weasel got together and they were horsing around in a bat pissed on with a horsing around in a bat pissed on with a horsing around in a bat pissed on with a golden shower you know it's like and all golden shower you know it's like and all

01:21:43golden shower you know it's like and all of a sudden it was in a wet Market very of a sudden it was in a wet Market very of a sudden it was in a wet Market very wet Market you got you know complete wet Market you got you know complete wet Market you got you know complete total horseshit and totally the total horseshit and totally the total horseshit and totally the scientists that we're supposed to to scientists that we're supposed to to scientists that we're supposed to to trust were pitching that horeshit the trust were pitching that horeshit the trust were pitching that horeshit the AIDS thing some green monkey bit a AIDS thing some green monkey bit a

01:21:56AIDS thing some green monkey bit a quantis steart on the ass then he went quantis steart on the ass then he went quantis steart on the ass then he went around the world and got everybody sick around the world and got everybody sick around the world and got everybody sick and it was like you know ridiculous if and it was like you know ridiculous if and it was like you know ridiculous if you want to go to the AIDS rabbit hole you want to go to the AIDS rabbit hole you want to go to the AIDS rabbit hole look up a guy named Peter duberg oh yes look up a guy named Peter duberg oh yes look up a guy named Peter duberg oh yes I know I read that book yeah that is I know I read that book yeah that is

01:22:07I know I read that book yeah that is crazy cuz if he's telling the truth this crazy cuz if he's telling the truth this crazy cuz if he's telling the truth this is the [ __ ] covid crisis times a is the [ __ ] covid crisis times a is the [ __ ] covid crisis times a thousand MH yeah I had him on the thousand MH yeah I had him on the thousand MH yeah I had him on the podcast way back in the day it was one podcast way back in the day it was one podcast way back in the day it was one of the earlier guests that I had it was of the earlier guests that I had it was of the earlier guests that I had it was like way back in like 2010 it was one of like way back in like 2010 it was one of

01:22:19like way back in like 2010 it was one of the first times I got openly attacked the first times I got openly attacked the first times I got openly attacked for someone being on the podcast they for someone being on the podcast they for someone being on the podcast they was like blood is on on your hands I'm was like blood is on on your hands I'm was like blood is on on your hands I'm like first of all no it's not it's 2010 like first of all no it's not it's 2010 like first of all no it's not it's 2010 who's dying of AIDS zero people so stop who's dying of AIDS zero people so stop who's dying of AIDS zero people so stop it's not bloods on your hand like if it's not bloods on your hand like if

01:22:32it's not bloods on your hand like if this guy's correct he's a tenur this guy's correct he's a tenur this guy's correct he's a tenur professor at the University of professor at the University of professor at the University of California Berkeley who is like his work California Berkeley who is like his work California Berkeley who is like his work on cancer is you know everybody thinks on cancer is you know everybody thinks on cancer is you know everybody thinks it's groundbreaking work brilliant it's groundbreaking work brilliant it's groundbreaking work brilliant doctor but he was a heretic he was a guy doctor but he was a heretic he was a guy

01:22:47doctor but he was a heretic he was a guy who stood outside of Fouch Nar Doctrine who stood outside of Fouch Nar Doctrine who stood outside of Fouch Nar Doctrine and the narrative and he said I don't and the narrative and he said I don't and the narrative and he said I don't believe that HIV is what's causing this believe that HIV is what's causing this believe that HIV is what's causing this when all these people that are having when all these people that are having when all these people that are having these immune systems are all heavy drug these immune systems are all heavy drug these immune systems are all heavy drug users yeah he's like I think this is a

01:23:01users yeah he's like I think this is a users yeah he's like I think this is a disease of a decimation of the immune disease of a decimation of the immune disease of a decimation of the immune system due to heavy drug use and then on system due to heavy drug use and then on system due to heavy drug use and then on top of that you're prescribing this top of that you're prescribing this top of that you're prescribing this chemical this a that kills people yeah chemical this a that kills people yeah chemical this a that kills people yeah no they stopped using it for no they stopped using it for no they stopped using it for chemotherapy because it was killing them

01:23:15chemotherapy because it was killing them chemotherapy because it was killing them quicker than cancer was I was in the quicker than cancer was I was in the quicker than cancer was I was in the Sydney Theater Company in the 90s Sydney Theater Company in the 90s Sydney Theater Company in the 90s and I was going to a funeral once a and I was going to a funeral once a and I was going to a funeral once a month of month of month of friends they were all dying it's crazy friends they were all dying it's crazy friends they were all dying it's crazy in in in the 80s and 90s and they were in in in the 80s and 90s and they were

01:23:31in in in the 80s and 90s and they were all getting a yeah maybe yeah I don't all getting a yeah maybe yeah I don't all getting a yeah maybe yeah I don't know well the ones that were getting act know well the ones that were getting act know well the ones that were getting act even the ones that were asymptomatic even the ones that were asymptomatic even the ones that were asymptomatic yeah like Magic Johnson they were giving yeah like Magic Johnson they were giving yeah like Magic Johnson they were giving Magic Johnson act he had to stop taking Magic Johnson act he had to stop taking Magic Johnson act he had to stop taking it yeah because he was making him sick

01:23:45it yeah because he was making him sick it yeah because he was making him sick it was killing him yeah yeah I read it it was killing him yeah yeah I read it it was killing him yeah yeah I read it and like it's even with rfk's book and and like it's even with rfk's book and and like it's even with rfk's book and and he's an amazing guy people say oh and he's an amazing guy people say oh and he's an amazing guy people say oh he's kooky he's crazy he's not crazy he's kooky he's crazy he's not crazy he's kooky he's crazy he's not crazy he's not he's he's one of the most he's not he's he's one of the most he's not he's he's one of the most aidite you know he's they say he's an

01:23:59aidite you know he's they say he's an aidite you know he's they say he's an antivaxer he's not he's not he's like antivaxer he's not he's not he's like antivaxer he's not he's not he's like he's he's he's a very shrewd he's never he's he's he's a very shrewd he's never he's he's he's a very shrewd he's never lost a case I don't think when he brings lost a case I don't think when he brings lost a case I don't think when he brings something to suit I don't think he's something to suit I don't think he's something to suit I don't think he's ever been defeated but that book is not ever been defeated but that book is not

01:24:11ever been defeated but that book is not just him it's him and about a thousand just him it's him and about a thousand just him it's him and about a thousand highly qualified scientists and highly qualified scientists and highly qualified scientists and Physicians commenting on yes the whole Physicians commenting on yes the whole Physicians commenting on yes the whole situation so when you read it it's it's situation so when you read it it's it's situation so when you read it it's it's a pretty convincing document and you're a pretty convincing document and you're a pretty convincing document and you're right nobody sued him for it yeah right nobody sued him for it yeah

01:24:25right nobody sued him for it yeah you know it's pretty scary well not not you know it's pretty scary well not not you know it's pretty scary well not not only do they not sue him their their only do they not sue him their their only do they not sue him their their response is to try to ignore it they response is to try to ignore it they response is to try to ignore it they don't want to debate him on it they don't want to debate him on it they don't want to debate him on it they don't want to do anything they want to don't want to do anything they want to don't want to do anything they want to just ignore it and hope it goes away but just ignore it and hope it goes away but

01:24:35just ignore it and hope it goes away but it doesn't go away and the more people it doesn't go away and the more people it doesn't go away and the more people talk about it the more people read it talk about it the more people read it talk about it the more people read it and when you do read it and you go if and when you do read it and you go if and when you do read it and you go if this is true what the [ __ ] is going on this is true what the [ __ ] is going on this is true what the [ __ ] is going on and how is that monster still loose yeah and how is that monster still loose yeah and how is that monster still loose yeah oh well and he seems like a monster the

01:24:48oh well and he seems like a monster the oh well and he seems like a monster the way he talks about things he just seems way he talks about things he just seems way he talks about things he just seems well first of all there's so many well first of all there's so many well first of all there's so many instances of him lying there's many like instances of him lying there's many like instances of him lying there's many like where he said one thing two years later where he said one thing two years later where he said one thing two years later it turns out to be a lie said one like it turns out to be a lie said one like it turns out to be a lie said one like whether whether it is the

01:25:01whether whether it is the whether whether it is the um the mask thing whether it's the um the mask thing whether it's the um the mask thing whether it's the natural natural natural spillover you know the the lies about spillover you know the the lies about spillover you know the the lies about gain a function to Congress you know gain a function to Congress you know gain a function to Congress you know sure when he was lying to Rand Paul sure when he was lying to Rand Paul sure when he was lying to Rand Paul about whether or not they did gain a about whether or not they did gain a about whether or not they did gain a function research like how is that not

01:25:17function research like how is that not function research like how is that not perjury how is he not in trouble yeah perjury how is he not in trouble yeah perjury how is he not in trouble yeah well well hey other Mysteries you know well well hey other Mysteries you know well well hey other Mysteries you know well then the Biden Administration is well then the Biden Administration is well then the Biden Administration is now talking about taking that guy and now talking about taking that guy and now talking about taking that guy and and giving him a full pardon it's like and giving him a full pardon it's like and giving him a full pardon it's like [ __ ] crazy yeah they might you know I

01:25:31[ __ ] crazy yeah they might you know I [ __ ] crazy yeah they might you know I gave h a pardon yeah but but hunter like gave h a pardon yeah but but hunter like gave h a pardon yeah but but hunter like Hunter didn't need a pardon was he Hunter didn't need a pardon was he Hunter didn't need a pardon was he indicted well I mean he was in trouble indicted well I mean he was in trouble indicted well I mean he was in trouble for tax evation oh I see there's a lot for tax evation oh I see there's a lot for tax evation oh I see there's a lot of tax problems he's he he definitely of tax problems he's he he definitely of tax problems he's he he definitely did some uncool things and then there's

01:25:47did some uncool things and then there's did some uncool things and then there's the barisma thing but the crazy thing the barisma thing but the crazy thing the barisma thing but the crazy thing about his pardon is it starts at the about his pardon is it starts at the about his pardon is it starts at the time of him being involved in barisma so time of him being involved in barisma so time of him being involved in barisma so it's from it's from it's from 2011 all the way to today right that's 2011 all the way to today right that's 2011 all the way to today right that's that's what he hardened him it's the the that's what he hardened him it's the the

01:26:02that's what he hardened him it's the the biggest sweeping pardon that anyone's biggest sweeping pardon that anyone's biggest sweeping pardon that anyone's ever received ever and Biden's pardoned ever received ever and Biden's pardoned ever received ever and Biden's pardoned more people than anybody ever too yeah more people than anybody ever too yeah more people than anybody ever too yeah he was already over 8,000 people he was already over 8,000 people he was already over 8,000 people pardoned yeah a lot of criminals on pardoned yeah a lot of criminals on pardoned yeah a lot of criminals on death throw and stuff well there's that death throw and stuff well there's that

01:26:15death throw and stuff well there's that and but then there's also people that and but then there's also people that and but then there's also people that like the kids for cash judges MH you like the kids for cash judges MH you like the kids for cash judges MH you know the where they were locking up kids know the where they were locking up kids know the where they were locking up kids and putting them in CH child detention and putting them in CH child detention and putting them in CH child detention centers because they wanted money and centers because they wanted money and centers because they wanted money and they were doing it for Kickbacks yeah I they were doing it for Kickbacks yeah I

01:26:30they were doing it for Kickbacks yeah I saw that a documentary yeah evil again saw that a documentary yeah evil again saw that a documentary yeah evil again what we're talking about Good and Evil what we're talking about Good and Evil what we're talking about Good and Evil yeah like there these are real things yeah like there these are real things yeah like there these are real things and and and rational people that profess themselves rational people that profess themselves rational people that profess themselves to be intelligent and secular they don't to be intelligent and secular they don't to be intelligent and secular they don't want to believe in Good and Evil they

01:26:44want to believe in Good and Evil they want to believe in Good and Evil they don't think that they're they just think don't think that they're they just think don't think that they're they just think people do bad things people have people do bad things people have people do bad things people have motivations they do bad things but they motivations they do bad things but they motivations they do bad things but they don't want to believe in the concept of don't want to believe in the concept of don't want to believe in the concept of Good and Evil because these are biblical Good and Evil because these are biblical Good and Evil because these are biblical Concepts they are right yeah and I you

01:26:57Concepts they are right yeah and I you Concepts they are right yeah and I you know they've been around since the know they've been around since the know they've been around since the beginning and people want to pretend beginning and people want to pretend beginning and people want to pretend they're smarter than the people that they're smarter than the people that they're smarter than the people that sort of embrace these biblical Concepts sort of embrace these biblical Concepts sort of embrace these biblical Concepts right or yeah I think uh that goes into right or yeah I think uh that goes into right or yeah I think uh that goes into Evolution again does are we smarter than

01:27:11Evolution again does are we smarter than Evolution again does are we smarter than our grandparents you know I don't know our grandparents you know I don't know our grandparents you know I don't know well we are about some things but we well we are about some things but we well we are about some things but we can't survive the way they did nope they can't survive the way they did nope they can't survive the way they did nope they are obviously intelligent yeah it's just are obviously intelligent yeah it's just are obviously intelligent yeah it's just they didn't have access to information they didn't have access to information

01:27:20they didn't have access to information the way we do but there's a difference the way we do but there's a difference the way we do but there's a difference between information and intelligence between information and intelligence between information and intelligence sure

01:27:28yeah I don't have many devices for yeah I don't have many devices for information I read books I read mostly information I read books I read mostly information I read books I read mostly history books yeah yeah oh I got a a history books yeah yeah oh I got a a history books yeah yeah oh I got a a recommended book to you okay it's recommended book to you okay it's recommended book to you okay it's fascinating and it's I it's called the fascinating and it's I it's called the fascinating and it's I it's called the Frontiersman and it's about a guy called Frontiersman and it's about a guy called Frontiersman and it's about a guy called Simon Kenton you ever hear this guy no

01:27:48Simon Kenton you ever hear this guy no Simon Kenton you ever hear this guy no whoa and it was written by a guy who's whoa and it was written by a guy who's whoa and it was written by a guy who's now deceased his name is Alan now deceased his name is Alan now deceased his name is Alan eert and it is really about opening up eert and it is really about opening up eert and it is really about opening up Ohio and Kentucky and places like that Ohio and Kentucky and places like that Ohio and Kentucky and places like that with this guy Simon with this guy Simon with this guy Simon Kenton who was just an Irish Kenton who was just an Irish

01:28:05Kenton who was just an Irish immigrant he wasn't much for farming and immigrant he wasn't much for farming and immigrant he wasn't much for farming and stuff but he thought he killed a stuff but he thought he killed a stuff but he thought he killed a guy and so he ran away because he guy and so he ran away because he guy and so he ran away because he thought he'd be indicted for some crime thought he'd be indicted for some crime thought he'd be indicted for some crime or something and he ended up being this or something and he ended up being this or something and he ended up being this Frontiersman and it is it's a very Frontiersman and it is it's a very

01:28:22Frontiersman and it is it's a very interesting document because interesting document because interesting document because you get the history of what was going on you get the history of what was going on you get the history of what was going on at the time when the country was opening at the time when the country was opening at the time when the country was opening up between the settlers and the Indians up between the settlers and the Indians up between the settlers and the Indians you know the shaune in there one of the you know the shaune in there one of the you know the shaune in there one of the most brutal books I've ever read really most brutal books I've ever read really

01:28:38most brutal books I've ever read really oh it's it's very well and it has a oh it's it's very well and it has a oh it's it's very well and it has a narrative but it's reconstructed from narrative but it's reconstructed from narrative but it's reconstructed from his you know all kinds of historical his you know all kinds of historical his you know all kinds of historical documents and letters and Diaries and documents and letters and Diaries and documents and letters and Diaries and all this kind of stuff so I think the all this kind of stuff so I think the all this kind of stuff so I think the guy took about 15 years to sort of guy took about 15 years to sort of

01:28:50guy took about 15 years to sort of compile all this stuff and write it and compile all this stuff and write it and compile all this stuff and write it and the first half of the book is about this the first half of the book is about this the first half of the book is about this guy Simon Kenton and the second half is guy Simon Kenton and the second half is guy Simon Kenton and the second half is about about about tumza you know the tumza you know the tumza you know the chief really great book one of the one chief really great book one of the one chief really great book one of the one of the most fascinating books I read you of the most fascinating books I read you

01:29:04of the most fascinating books I read you can't put it down really y because it's can't put it down really y because it's can't put it down really y because it's just like it's like little chapters I'm just like it's like little chapters I'm just like it's like little chapters I'm going to get that right now have you going to get that right now have you going to get that right now have you ever read the Empire of the summer Moon ever read the Empire of the summer Moon ever read the Empire of the summer Moon nope Empire of the summer moon is uh nope Empire of the summer moon is uh nope Empire of the summer moon is uh about the kamanche oh yeah and it's all

01:29:18about the kamanche oh yeah and it's all about the kamanche oh yeah and it's all about the settling of this area it's about the settling of this area it's about the settling of this area it's [ __ ] incredible and again one of the [ __ ] incredible and again one of the [ __ ] incredible and again one of the most brutal books ever so this is the most brutal books ever so this is the most brutal books ever so this is the Frontiersman the Frontiersman by Alan Frontiersman the Frontiersman by Alan Frontiersman the Frontiersman by Alan eert eert eert yeah I'm going to cat that right now yeah I'm going to cat that right now yeah I'm going to cat that right now just so that I make sure that I have

01:29:36just so that I make sure that I have just so that I make sure that I have it yeah and it's all in a little it yeah and it's all in a little it yeah and it's all in a little bite-sized bite-sized bite-sized chunks and it chunks and it chunks and it actually for a history book it has this actually for a history book it has this actually for a history book it has this incredible incredible incredible narrative with heroes and villains and narrative with heroes and villains and narrative with heroes and villains and and uh all the players and uh all the players and uh all the players very interesting very interesting very interesting document I'm getting it right now yeah

01:30:00document I'm getting it right now yeah document I'm getting it right now yeah oh oh oh yeah don't read it before bed no no it yeah don't read it before bed no no it yeah don't read it before bed no no it gets pretty it gets pretty gets pretty it gets pretty gets pretty it gets pretty dark what why are you uh so drawn to dark what why are you uh so drawn to dark what why are you uh so drawn to history I don't know I think because history I don't know I think because history I don't know I think because maybe I'm trying to learn something it's maybe I'm trying to learn something it's maybe I'm trying to learn something it's been about 80 years since the last big

01:30:24war Alan eert got it I think I just want war Alan eert got it I think I just want to learn you know I mean my dad went to to learn you know I mean my dad went to to learn you know I mean my dad went to World War II he went to gule Canal right World War II he went to gule Canal right World War II he went to gule Canal right got bit by mosquitoes he had you know got bit by mosquitoes he had you know got bit by mosquitoes he had you know malaria which is interesting to note malaria which is interesting to note malaria which is interesting to note that he used to take hydroxy chloric that he used to take hydroxy chloric that he used to take hydroxy chloric when he get a malaria attack crazy and

01:30:40when he get a malaria attack crazy and when he get a malaria attack crazy and then when I tried when my doctor then when I tried when my doctor then when I tried when my doctor recommended I get it when I had covid recommended I get it when I had covid recommended I get it when I had covid they gouged me 800 it used to cost him they gouged me 800 it used to cost him they gouged me 800 it used to cost him 30 bucks they wanted 800 bucks for they 30 bucks they wanted 800 bucks for they 30 bucks they wanted 800 bucks for they were gouging well not only that when were gouging well not only that when were gouging well not only that when Trump talked about it then they all of a

01:30:56Trump talked about it then they all of a Trump talked about it then they all of a sudden they demonized it yeah yeah they sudden they demonized it yeah yeah they sudden they demonized it yeah yeah they laughed yeah yeah which is crazy because laughed yeah yeah which is crazy because laughed yeah yeah which is crazy because it's an antiviral it works yeah it works it's an antiviral it works yeah it works it's an antiviral it works yeah it works on malaria yeah yeah and people have on malaria yeah yeah and people have on malaria yeah yeah and people have been taking it forever sure pregnant been taking it forever sure pregnant

01:31:06been taking it forever sure pregnant women can take it if they have the flu women can take it if they have the flu women can take it if they have the flu and it doesn't hurt the baby you know and it doesn't hurt the baby you know and it doesn't hurt the baby you know pretty safe it's like ior mton you know pretty safe it's like ior mton you know pretty safe it's like ior mton you know but that's what's so bizarre about the but that's what's so bizarre about the but that's what's so bizarre about the time that we just went through because time that we just went through because time that we just went through because there's more information now available there's more information now available

01:31:16there's more information now available to people instantaneously than ever to people instantaneously than ever to people instantaneously than ever before you look it up on your phone before you look it up on your phone before you look it up on your phone instantly know oh Iver meon the guy who instantly know oh Iver meon the guy who instantly know oh Iver meon the guy who created it won the Nobel Prize yeah 2014 created it won the Nobel Prize yeah 2014 created it won the Nobel Prize yeah 2014 yeah 15 yeah for use in human beings yeah 15 yeah for use in human beings yeah 15 yeah for use in human beings yeah yeah so what the [ __ ] is going on yeah yeah so what the [ __ ] is going on

01:31:29yeah yeah so what the [ __ ] is going on yep like how who's running this thing yep like how who's running this thing yep like how who's running this thing and it's harmless and it wasn't made for and it's harmless and it wasn't made for and it's harmless and it wasn't made for horses it was made for people and then horses it was made for people and then horses it was made for people and then they used it for horses right right so they used it for horses right right so they used it for horses right right so well it's like saying penicillin is for well it's like saying penicillin is for well it's like saying penicillin is for horses because they use that on horses

01:31:41horses because they use that on horses horses because they use that on horses too like that's stupid they told me it too like that's stupid they told me it too like that's stupid they told me it was from moldy bread that's what it was was from moldy bread that's what it was was from moldy bread that's what it was from yeah yeah but I mean there's a lot from yeah yeah but I mean there's a lot from yeah yeah but I mean there's a lot of medication that's used on animals too of medication that's used on animals too of medication that's used on animals too you can't say it's a Veterinary you can't say it's a Veterinary you can't say it's a Veterinary medication just cuz it's also used on

01:31:53medication just cuz it's also used on medication just cuz it's also used on animals animals animals that's true it's been used on literally that's true it's been used on literally that's true it's been used on literally prescribed billions of times on human prescribed billions of times on human prescribed billions of times on human beings yeah it's like the stem cell beings yeah it's like the stem cell beings yeah it's like the stem cell stuff they started using it on horses stuff they started using it on horses stuff they started using it on horses with empatic lung conditions race horses with empatic lung conditions race horses

01:32:06with empatic lung conditions race horses because they would bleed and they got because they would bleed and they got because they would bleed and they got the stem cells from the from the the stem cells from the from the the stem cells from the from the umbilical cords of their offspring umbilical cords of their offspring umbilical cords of their offspring injected it into them and it healed injected it into them and it healed injected it into them and it healed their their their lungs which is part of my story MH lungs which is part of my story MH lungs which is part of my story MH because I smoked for 45 years and I because I smoked for 45 years and I

01:32:19because I smoked for 45 years and I couldn't stop and I read this silly book couldn't stop and I read this silly book couldn't stop and I read this silly book by Alan Carr not the little guy who you by Alan Carr not the little guy who you by Alan Carr not the little guy who you know managed the Village People in the know managed the Village People in the know managed the Village People in the cfan the little fat guy but no this cfan the little fat guy but no this cfan the little fat guy but no this other guy Alan Carr and he wrote this other guy Alan Carr and he wrote this other guy Alan Carr and he wrote this book and it's the only thing that made book and it's the only thing that made

01:32:34book and it's the only thing that made me stop it work like crazy but the book me stop it work like crazy but the book me stop it work like crazy but the book made you stop like what the book made me made you stop like what the book made me made you stop like what the book made me stop I read this book it was the book stop I read this book it was the book stop I read this book it was the book called the easy way to stop smoking and called the easy way to stop smoking and called the easy way to stop smoking and it's a silly title right and it was sad it's a silly title right and it was sad it's a silly title right and it was sad my son gave it to me he said stop

01:32:48my son gave it to me he said stop my son gave it to me he said stop smoking Dad here here's this book I left smoking Dad here here's this book I left smoking Dad here here's this book I left it on I used to walk past the bookshelf it on I used to walk past the bookshelf it on I used to walk past the bookshelf and go Dumb Book dumb title you know and and go Dumb Book dumb title you know and and go Dumb Book dumb title you know and then I finally my doctor said you have then I finally my doctor said you have then I finally my doctor said you have first stage empyema and I'm like you got first stage empyema and I'm like you got

01:33:00first stage empyema and I'm like you got to be kidding me he said yeah you got to to be kidding me he said yeah you got to to be kidding me he said yeah you got to K the SM I better read this book so I K the SM I better read this book so I K the SM I better read this book so I read the book and I read the book and I read the book and I stopped right so it was uh um I think it stopped right so it was uh um I think it stopped right so it was uh um I think it was like neurolinguistic programming or was like neurolinguistic programming or was like neurolinguistic programming or something like that you read it and you something like that you read it and you

01:33:14something like that you read it and you kind of self- hypnotize yourself but it kind of self- hypnotize yourself but it kind of self- hypnotize yourself but it worked what did the book tell you like worked what did the book tell you like worked what did the book tell you like it said uh it didn't tell you you're bad it said uh it didn't tell you you're bad it said uh it didn't tell you you're bad you're you know you're going to die it you're you know you're going to die it you're you know you're going to die it didn't tell you all that sort of stuff didn't tell you all that sort of stuff didn't tell you all that sort of stuff it was

01:33:30like I mean they had things like maybe like I mean they had things like maybe maybe I'm blowing it but uh they had a maybe I'm blowing it but uh they had a maybe I'm blowing it but uh they had a chapter where it says okay we focused on chapter where it says okay we focused on chapter where it says okay we focused on the negative aspects of smoking now the negative aspects of smoking now the negative aspects of smoking now we're going to talk about the good we're going to talk about the good we're going to talk about the good aspects of smoking in the next chapter aspects of smoking in the next chapter aspects of smoking in the next chapter and then you turn the page and the page

01:33:41and then you turn the page and the page and then you turn the page and the page is is is empty you know and it's just a trick empty you know and it's just a trick empty you know and it's just a trick it's a mind trick the whole thing was a it's a mind trick the whole thing was a it's a mind trick the whole thing was a mind trick but it worked and I don't mind trick but it worked and I don't mind trick but it worked and I don't know why it worked but it was s sort of know why it worked but it was s sort of know why it worked but it was s sort of like self- hypnosis while you're reading like self- hypnosis while you're reading

01:33:52like self- hypnosis while you're reading the book and it wasn't a negative thing the book and it wasn't a negative thing the book and it wasn't a negative thing like I got to stop this it's bad it's like I got to stop this it's bad it's like I got to stop this it's bad it's bad I'm I'm scared it wasn't even that bad I'm I'm scared it wasn't even that bad I'm I'm scared it wasn't even that in fact if I hadn't had the stem cells in fact if I hadn't had the stem cells in fact if I hadn't had the stem cells afterwards my lungs completely healed afterwards my lungs completely healed afterwards my lungs completely healed from that by the way did it do it from that by the way did it do it

01:34:05from that by the way did it do it intravenously yeah intravenous and it intravenously yeah intravenous and it intravenously yeah intravenous and it gets stuck in your lungs and it was Dr gets stuck in your lungs and it was Dr gets stuck in your lungs and it was Dr Reen that was Reen yeah we talked yeah Reen that was Reen yeah we talked yeah Reen that was Reen yeah we talked yeah yeah yeah it worked stem cells are yeah yeah it worked stem cells are yeah yeah it worked stem cells are incredible and the fact that you can't incredible and the fact that you can't incredible and the fact that you can't get them the way they can get them in get them the way they can get them in

01:34:17get them the way they can get them in overseas we can get it in Panama where overseas we can get it in Panama where overseas we can get it in Panama where Ruden has his clinic and Tijana they're Ruden has his clinic and Tijana they're Ruden has his clinic and Tijana they're getting better here they're getting getting better here they're getting getting better here they're getting better but there's so much resistance better but there's so much resistance better but there's so much resistance because of the FDA yeah sure and the because of the FDA yeah sure and the because of the FDA yeah sure and the resistance is purely because of money resistance is purely because of money

01:34:29resistance is purely because of money it's again it's an evil thing it's not it's again it's an evil thing it's not it's again it's an evil thing it's not because they're they're not effective because they're they're not effective because they're they're not effective it's not because they're dangerous it's it's not because they're dangerous it's it's not because they're dangerous it's just because of money I think so and um just because of money I think so and um just because of money I think so and um you know there's an agenda I think you you know there's an agenda I think you you know there's an agenda I think you know farmer wants to keep you on stuff

01:34:42know farmer wants to keep you on stuff know farmer wants to keep you on stuff yeah they want to sell you something so yeah they want to sell you something so yeah they want to sell you something so if there's a a Surefire cure for if there's a a Surefire cure for if there's a a Surefire cure for something it's not necessarily hailed no something it's not necessarily hailed no something it's not necessarily hailed no um well and then there's also the um well and then there's also the um well and then there's also the problem of the media the media's lock problem of the media the media's lock problem of the media the media's lock step in with these businesses that are

01:34:57step in with these businesses that are step in with these businesses that are promoting these things yes and they're promoting these things yes and they're promoting these things yes and they're not giving you information they're not giving you information they're not giving you information they're giving you propaganda before they're giving you propaganda before they're giving you propaganda before they're giving you information propaganda is giving you information propaganda is giving you information propaganda is more important to them than information more important to them than information more important to them than information yeah and that's what's crazy it's like

01:35:09yeah and that's what's crazy it's like yeah and that's what's crazy it's like we we're counting on you guys and you we we're counting on you guys and you we we're counting on you guys and you [ __ ] us you [ __ ] us for four years [ __ ] us you [ __ ] us for four years [ __ ] us you [ __ ] us for four years with this covid thing and now you expect with this covid thing and now you expect with this covid thing and now you expect us to listen to you about the [ __ ] us to listen to you about the [ __ ] us to listen to you about the [ __ ] swine flu or the bird flu or whatever swine flu or the bird flu or whatever swine flu or the bird flu or whatever other thing you're trying to freak us

01:35:20other thing you're trying to freak us other thing you're trying to freak us out about which always coincides with out about which always coincides with out about which always coincides with some sort of a political event like here some sort of a political event like here some sort of a political event like here it is the inauguration of the new it is the inauguration of the new it is the inauguration of the new president and oh look at this there's a president and oh look at this there's a president and oh look at this there's a new disease what do we got now what is new disease what do we got now what is new disease what do we got now what is it do you think there will be well there

01:35:34it do you think there will be well there it do you think there will be well there is there's this [ __ ] swine flu H5 N1 is there's this [ __ ] swine flu H5 N1 is there's this [ __ ] swine flu H5 N1 whatever is I thought it was bird flu whatever is I thought it was bird flu whatever is I thought it was bird flu one bird flu one person died one person one bird flu one person died one person one bird flu one person died one person in America first person died 65 years in America first person died 65 years in America first person died 65 years old with a bunch of comorbidities yeah old with a bunch of comorbidities yeah

01:35:47old with a bunch of comorbidities yeah okay and which is usually what it is but okay and which is usually what it is but okay and which is usually what it is but by the way 65 people with a bunch of by the way 65 people with a bunch of by the way 65 people with a bunch of comorbidities die all the time of comorbidities die all the time of comorbidities die all the time of nothing they die of anything any I mean nothing they die of anything any I mean nothing they die of anything any I mean this is like a car that's falling apart this is like a car that's falling apart this is like a car that's falling apart and you run over a nail and oh the nail and you run over a nail and oh the nail

01:36:00and you run over a nail and oh the nail killed the car no that car was falling killed the car no that car was falling killed the car no that car was falling the [ __ ] apart yeah like the the nail the [ __ ] apart yeah like the the nail the [ __ ] apart yeah like the the nail you ran over was the last nail in the you ran over was the last nail in the you ran over was the last nail in the coffin but the thing was falling apart I coffin but the thing was falling apart I coffin but the thing was falling apart I got Co from my got Co from my got Co from my Gardener and he had it first and then I Gardener and he had it first and then I

01:36:13Gardener and he had it first and then I got it I was like ah did I grab the hose got it I was like ah did I grab the hose got it I was like ah did I grab the hose or what you know what was I don't know or what you know what was I don't know or what you know what was I don't know but uh it was um it was I knew the guy but uh it was um it was I knew the guy but uh it was um it was I knew the guy for 20 years and we both went to the for 20 years and we both went to the for 20 years and we both went to the same Hospital hospital and he died and I same Hospital hospital and he died and I same Hospital hospital and he died and I didn't didn't didn't Jesus I think we both got REM Des of

01:36:30Jesus I think we both got REM Des of Jesus I think we both got REM Des of here which is not good not good not good here which is not good not good not good here which is not good not good not good causes kidney failure I know I I causes kidney failure I know I I causes kidney failure I know I I couldn't walk for three months after I couldn't walk for three months after I couldn't walk for three months after I had that stuff really because it kills had that stuff really because it kills had that stuff really because it kills you I found that afterwards it kills you you I found that afterwards it kills you you I found that afterwards it kills you that's why I wonder about fouchy you

01:36:42that's why I wonder about fouchy you that's why I wonder about fouchy you know oh you should wonder about that guy know oh you should wonder about that guy know oh you should wonder about that guy when meanwhile they were trying to stop when meanwhile they were trying to stop when meanwhile they were trying to stop people from getting monoclonal people from getting monoclonal people from getting monoclonal antibodies yeah yeah yeah theyve antibodies yeah yeah yeah theyve antibodies yeah yeah yeah theyve restricted monoclonal antibodies which restricted monoclonal antibodies which restricted monoclonal antibodies which is [ __ ] insane because they wanted to

01:36:53is [ __ ] insane because they wanted to is [ __ ] insane because they wanted to promote That vaccine because they wanted promote That vaccine because they wanted promote That vaccine because they wanted a profit off of it which brings us back a profit off of it which brings us back a profit off of it which brings us back again to evil Evil's real it's real again to evil Evil's real it's real again to evil Evil's real it's real putting money over human lives is evil I putting money over human lives is evil I putting money over human lives is evil I agree it's a it's a real thing and agree it's a it's a real thing and agree it's a it's a real thing and there's a there's a temptation to do it

01:37:08there's a there's a temptation to do it there's a there's a temptation to do it too which is even more crazy yeah I too which is even more crazy yeah I too which is even more crazy yeah I don't believe that there is anything don't believe that there is anything don't believe that there is anything that can afflict mankind that hasn't got that can afflict mankind that hasn't got that can afflict mankind that hasn't got a natural cure for it I think that that a natural cure for it I think that that a natural cure for it I think that that has to be it just makes sense to me now has to be it just makes sense to me now

01:37:20has to be it just makes sense to me now I couldn't prove that but I just believe I couldn't prove that but I just believe I couldn't prove that but I just believe believe that yeah that there's got to be believe that yeah that there's got to be believe that yeah that there's got to be something that cures things and I'll something that cures things and I'll something that cures things and I'll tell you a good story tell you a good story tell you a good story okay I have three okay I have three okay I have three friends all three of them at stage four friends all three of them at stage four friends all three of them at stage four cancer all three of them don't have

01:37:39cancer all three of them don't have cancer all three of them don't have cancer right now at all and they had cancer right now at all and they had cancer right now at all and they had some serious stuff going on and what did some serious stuff going on and what did some serious stuff going on and what did they they they take take take Jesus they took Jesus they took Jesus they took some what you've heard they've taken some what you've heard they've taken some what you've heard they've taken icting icting icting fendol fendol yeah yeah I'm hearing that fendol fendol yeah yeah I'm hearing that fendol fendol yeah yeah I'm hearing that a lot they drank hydrochloride something

01:37:59a lot they drank hydrochloride something a lot they drank hydrochloride something or other there's studies on that now or other there's studies on that now or other there's studies on that now where people have proven that they where people have proven that they where people have proven that they drinking methylene blue and stuff like drinking methylene blue and stuff like drinking methylene blue and stuff like yeah methylene blue which was a fabric yeah methylene blue which was a fabric yeah methylene blue which was a fabric dye yeah yeah was a textile die and now dye yeah yeah was a textile die and now dye yeah yeah was a textile die and now they find it has profound effects on

01:38:12they find it has profound effects on they find it has profound effects on your mitochondria yep yeah this stuff your mitochondria yep yeah this stuff your mitochondria yep yeah this stuff works man there's a lot of stuff that works man there's a lot of stuff that works man there's a lot of stuff that does work which is very strange because does work which is very strange because does work which is very strange because again it's again it's again it's when you when you hear about things that when you when you hear about things that when you when you hear about things that are demonized and that that turn out to are demonized and that that turn out to

01:38:29are demonized and that that turn out to be effective you always wonder well what be effective you always wonder well what be effective you always wonder well what is going on here MH how is how is our is going on here MH how is how is our is going on here MH how is how is our medical institutions how have they medical institutions how have they medical institutions how have they failed us so that things that do cure failed us so that things that do cure failed us so that things that do cure you are not promoted because they're not you are not promoted because they're not you are not promoted because they're not profitable that they can't control it profitable that they can't control it

01:38:42profitable that they can't control it they don't have a patent on it whether they don't have a patent on it whether they don't have a patent on it whether it's vitamin D K2 and magnesium you know it's vitamin D K2 and magnesium you know it's vitamin D K2 and magnesium you know well yeah I'm well yeah I'm well yeah I'm doing I do all that stuff did did you do doing I do all that stuff did did you do doing I do all that stuff did did you do the Brea thing yeah yeah yeah me too I the Brea thing yeah yeah yeah me too I the Brea thing yeah yeah yeah me too I lost I lost like 30 pounds right it's lost I lost like 30 pounds right it's

01:38:57lost I lost like 30 pounds right it's fantastic I was talking to Dana and he fantastic I was talking to Dana and he fantastic I was talking to Dana and he said oh you know I was a and he and I said oh you know I was a and he and I said oh you know I was a and he and I said yeah I got to do something about said yeah I got to do something about said yeah I got to do something about this I'm like I'm 510 235 you know this I'm like I'm 510 235 you know this I'm like I'm 510 235 you know that's too fat yeah so I had to I had to that's too fat yeah so I had to I had to that's too fat yeah so I had to I had to sort of roll it back some now I'm under sort of roll it back some now I'm under

01:39:10sort of roll it back some now I'm under 200 which is about that's great should 200 which is about that's great should 200 which is about that's great should be you know but and it was that uh Brea be you know but and it was that uh Brea be you know but and it was that uh Brea stuff no Gary's a National Treasure yeah stuff no Gary's a National Treasure yeah stuff no Gary's a National Treasure yeah [ __ ] on all over the place too oh sure [ __ ] on all over the place too oh sure [ __ ] on all over the place too oh sure going to sauna but I feel better oh yeah going to sauna but I feel better oh yeah going to sauna but I feel better oh yeah oh I do all that stuff yeah yeah cold

01:39:25oh I do all that stuff yeah yeah cold oh I do all that stuff yeah yeah cold plunge Sono I'm ritualistic with it yeah plunge Sono I'm ritualistic with it yeah plunge Sono I'm ritualistic with it yeah that's good it's part of my everyday that's good it's part of my everyday that's good it's part of my everyday life you I hear your your cold plunge is life you I hear your your cold plunge is life you I hear your your cold plunge is like 34 I don't understand that though I like 34 I don't understand that though I like 34 I don't understand that though I mean dude 34 degrees whoa yeah it's cold mean dude 34 degrees whoa yeah it's cold

01:39:40mean dude 34 degrees whoa yeah it's cold that's hardcore yeah you get accustomed that's hardcore yeah you get accustomed that's hardcore yeah you get accustomed to it it to me is not I mean it sucks to it it to me is not I mean it sucks to it it to me is not I mean it sucks every time I do it I'm like don't do it every time I do it I'm like don't do it every time I do it I'm like don't do it don't there's like the part of me that's don't there's like the part of me that's don't there's like the part of me that's like my inner [ __ ] it's like oh we like my inner [ __ ] it's like oh we like my inner [ __ ] it's like oh we don't have to do this we don't have to

01:39:51don't have to do this we don't have to don't have to do this we don't have to do this but luckily the general is do this but luckily the general is do this but luckily the general is strong than the inner [ __ ] the general strong than the inner [ __ ] the general strong than the inner [ __ ] the general is always tell shut the [ __ ] up and get is always tell shut the [ __ ] up and get is always tell shut the [ __ ] up and get in there and I just get in there every in there and I just get in there every in there and I just get in there every day but I do like 48 man that inner day but I do like 48 man that inner day but I do like 48 man that inner [ __ ] is always talking though he never

01:40:03[ __ ] is always talking though he never [ __ ] is always talking though he never shuts up no never shuts up don't ever shuts up no never shuts up don't ever shuts up no never shuts up don't ever think that it like even though I do it think that it like even though I do it think that it like even though I do it every day anybody who's like I don't every day anybody who's like I don't every day anybody who's like I don't know how you do it I don't know how I do know how you do it I don't know how I do know how you do it I don't know how I do it either but I [ __ ] do it I make it either but I [ __ ] do it I make it either but I [ __ ] do it I make sure I do it I just I'm the boss yeah do

01:40:14sure I do it I just I'm the boss yeah do sure I do it I just I'm the boss yeah do you do the saunas too you do the red you do the saunas too you do the red you do the saunas too you do the red light bed I I have a red light bed yeah light bed I I have a red light bed yeah light bed I I have a red light bed yeah I have a sauna red light bed I have a I have a sauna red light bed I have a I have a sauna red light bed I have a hyper barar chamber wow I have hyper barar chamber wow I have hyper barar chamber wow I have everything okay I think baric Chambers everything okay I think baric Chambers everything okay I think baric Chambers is the best man it's is the best man it's

01:40:26is the best man it's incredible I got to get back in there I incredible I got to get back in there I incredible I got to get back in there I feel like I got more holes in my head feel like I got more holes in my head feel like I got more holes in my head it's phenomenal for just overall it's phenomenal for just overall it's phenomenal for just overall recovery of for everything and it's it's recovery of for everything and it's it's recovery of for everything and it's it's also been shown to lengthen telr they also been shown to lengthen telr they also been shown to lengthen telr they did a study out of Israel yeah they gave did a study out of Israel yeah they gave

01:40:38did a study out of Israel yeah they gave people a protocol over 90 days you do 60 people a protocol over 90 days you do 60 people a protocol over 90 days you do 60 sessions of 90 minutes over 90 days yeah sessions of 90 minutes over 90 days yeah sessions of 90 minutes over 90 days yeah and it's shown the length in telr and and it's shown the length in telr and and it's shown the length in telr and decrease your biological age okay and decrease your biological age okay and decrease your biological age okay and you just feel [ __ ] great that makes you just feel [ __ ] great that makes you just feel [ __ ] great that makes sense to me yeah yeah you're flooding

01:40:52sense to me yeah yeah you're flooding sense to me yeah yeah you're flooding your body with oxygen most diseases a your body with oxygen most diseases a your body with oxygen most diseases a lot of them come from a lack of oxygen lot of them come from a lack of oxygen lot of them come from a lack of oxygen you know your body not having enough you know your body not having enough you know your body not having enough oxygen is very bad for you yeah I used oxygen is very bad for you yeah I used oxygen is very bad for you yeah I used to have a chigong master this is what to have a chigong master this is what to have a chigong master this is what kind of blows my mind about medicine and

01:41:09kind of blows my mind about medicine and kind of blows my mind about medicine and about ancient stuff mhm this guy is from about ancient stuff mhm this guy is from about ancient stuff mhm this guy is from Shanghai he didn't speak much English Shanghai he didn't speak much English Shanghai he didn't speak much English right a little bit his wife would right a little bit his wife would right a little bit his wife would translate for him and he'd come in and translate for him and he'd come in and translate for him and he'd come in and he could like Point At You he could like Point At You he could like Point At You right from this far away and you'd feel right from this far away and you'd feel

01:41:26right from this far away and you'd feel it but like feel it like to the as it but like feel it like to the as it but like feel it like to the as palpable as someone pushing you around palpable as someone pushing you around palpable as someone pushing you around it's it's it's like really yeah yeah yeah I'm not like really yeah yeah yeah I'm not like really yeah yeah yeah I'm not kidding like like what year was this kidding like like what year was this kidding like like what year was this when this is happening oh [ __ ] I met him when this is happening oh [ __ ] I met him when this is happening oh [ __ ] I met him when I was like 40 yeah he only just when I was like 40 yeah he only just

01:41:40when I was like 40 yeah he only just passed away um damn too bad I'd like to passed away um damn too bad I'd like to passed away um damn too bad I'd like to meet that guy oh no there's people like meet that guy oh no there's people like meet that guy oh no there's people like him there are others like him oh yeah him there are others like him oh yeah him there are others like him oh yeah he's not the only one he learned it from he's not the only one he learned it from he's not the only one he learned it from somebody and I think he I think he somebody and I think he I think he somebody and I think he I think he imparted some knowledge but you know he imparted some knowledge but you know he

01:41:54imparted some knowledge but you know he would get you and he could he could like would get you and he could he could like would get you and he could he could like Point At You and stuff like that and it Point At You and stuff like that and it Point At You and stuff like that and it it makes you wonder like how did they it makes you wonder like how did they it makes you wonder like how did they build the pyramids you know I mean if if build the pyramids you know I mean if if build the pyramids you know I mean if if he can use his he can use his he can use his mind and kind of get into quantum mind and kind of get into quantum

01:42:05mind and kind of get into quantum physics and move [ __ ] around with physics and move [ __ ] around with physics and move [ __ ] around with thought and with energy there's actual thought and with energy there's actual thought and with energy there's actual energy coming out of his energy coming out of his energy coming out of his fingers they could have built a pyramids fingers they could have built a pyramids fingers they could have built a pyramids like that I don't know maybe somebody like that I don't know maybe somebody like that I don't know maybe somebody had that down somewhere but well I'd had that down somewhere but well I'd

01:42:18had that down somewhere but well I'd like to hear a better explanation me too like to hear a better explanation me too like to hear a better explanation me too well it's it was really weird I he uh well it's it was really weird I he uh well it's it was really weird I he uh time he was working on me and he was time he was working on me and he was time he was working on me and he was working on my liver he said your liver working on my liver he said your liver working on my liver he said your liver is blocked cuz he looks at you and if is blocked cuz he looks at you and if is blocked cuz he looks at you and if you look at him he looks away and his you look at him he looks away and his

01:42:34you look at him he looks away and his wife engages you while he checks you out wife engages you while he checks you out wife engages you while he checks you out and then he gives you a little body map and then he gives you a little body map and then he gives you a little body map and he puts X's all over it and you go and he puts X's all over it and you go and he puts X's all over it and you go yeah that's right I got a pain here and yeah that's right I got a pain here and yeah that's right I got a pain here and a thing there and you know he knows a thing there and you know he knows a thing there and you know he knows where everything is he knows exactly where everything is he knows exactly

01:42:44where everything is he knows exactly what's going on did you ask him what he what's going on did you ask him what he what's going on did you ask him what he is he seeing your aura like what is he is he seeing your aura like what is he is he seeing your aura like what is he seeing everything he sees everything he seeing everything he sees everything he seeing everything he sees everything he was an alpath doctor first he went to was an alpath doctor first he went to was an alpath doctor first he went to medical school he could write your medical school he could write your medical school he could write your prescription he could do all that stuff prescription he could do all that stuff

01:42:57prescription he could do all that stuff he was a doctor and then he saw a Chung he was a doctor and then he saw a Chung he was a doctor and then he saw a Chung Master this old guy and people were Master this old guy and people were Master this old guy and people were lining up getting cured and he thought lining up getting cured and he thought lining up getting cured and he thought that's really interesting and he learned that's really interesting and he learned that's really interesting and he learned that on top of being an alpath doctor so that on top of being an alpath doctor so that on top of being an alpath doctor so one day he's at me on my back and he's

01:43:12one day he's at me on my back and he's one day he's at me on my back and he's pushing and I can feel my back and I'm pushing and I can feel my back and I'm pushing and I can feel my back and I'm at the wall and there's a poster of a at the wall and there's a poster of a at the wall and there's a poster of a film on the wall you know my office and film on the wall you know my office and film on the wall you know my office and I'm looking and I can see him in the I'm looking and I can see him in the I'm looking and I can see him in the background and he's like down like this background and he's like down like this background and he's like down like this like ah like ah

01:43:24like ah like Kung Fu pointing pointing rays of like Kung Fu pointing pointing rays of like Kung Fu pointing pointing rays of energy at me and he hit me he started energy at me and he hit me he started energy at me and he hit me he started yelling at my organ at my liver like get yelling at my organ at my liver like get yelling at my organ at my liver like get out you know whatever and I I went up out you know whatever and I I went up out you know whatever and I I went up the wall and there was like8 inches of the wall and there was like8 inches of the wall and there was like8 inches of air under my heels and I was up the wall air under my heels and I was up the wall

01:43:41air under my heels and I was up the wall and I was like whoa and I came back down and I was like whoa and I came back down and I was like whoa and I came back down and it freaked me out and he I looked at and it freaked me out and he I looked at and it freaked me out and he I looked at him and he just went ah he said don't him and he just went ah he said don't him and he just went ah he said don't die just science like that just science die just science like that just science die just science like that just science okay just science yeah just science and okay just science yeah just science and okay just science yeah just science and I was so freaked out I went to a priest

01:43:56I was so freaked out I went to a priest I was so freaked out I went to a priest I said is this guy demonic or something I said is this guy demonic or something I said is this guy demonic or something because he's lifted me off the wall and because he's lifted me off the wall and because he's lifted me off the wall and and the priest was like he was an old and the priest was like he was an old and the priest was like he was an old Jesuit right a traditional old guy and Jesuit right a traditional old guy and Jesuit right a traditional old guy and he was he was a cross between Jimmy he was he was a cross between Jimmy he was he was a cross between Jimmy Stewart and Omer fud you know that's

01:44:11Stewart and Omer fud you know that's Stewart and Omer fud you know that's that's the way he sounded and I said is that's the way he sounded and I said is that's the way he sounded and I said is this anything like demonic about this this anything like demonic about this this anything like demonic about this guy like putting he says who whoa who guy like putting he says who whoa who guy like putting he says who whoa who did he heal you like that and I said why did he heal you like that and I said why did he heal you like that and I said why yes he did and he said that's right then yes he did and he said that's right then

01:44:24yes he did and he said that's right then and he says I have no trouble with and he says I have no trouble with and he says I have no trouble with something like that because it was it something like that because it was it something like that because it was it was within the realm of possibility that was within the realm of possibility that was within the realm of possibility that somebody had power like that and then somebody had power like that and then somebody had power like that and then it's it's it's inexplicable but that it works and it inexplicable but that it works and it inexplicable but that it works and it did work he yeah he just passed away he

01:44:40did work he yeah he just passed away he did work he yeah he just passed away he was pretty old there was a a place that was pretty old there was a a place that was pretty old there was a a place that you know I bought a comedy club out here you know I bought a comedy club out here you know I bought a comedy club out here and before uh the building that we and before uh the building that we and before uh the building that we bought was the Ritz Theater on 6th bought was the Ritz Theater on 6th bought was the Ritz Theater on 6th Street but before that I was under Street but before that I was under Street but before that I was under contract to another building then this

01:44:53contract to another building then this contract to another building then this other building was owned by a cult and other building was owned by a cult and other building was owned by a cult and this is a crazy story The Cult was awful this is a crazy story The Cult was awful this is a crazy story The Cult was awful horrible there's a documentary on it horrible there's a documentary on it horrible there's a documentary on it it's called holy hell and this guy who it's called holy hell and this guy who it's called holy hell and this guy who was a gay porn star and a hypnotist he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist he was a yoga instructor got a bunch of

01:45:07was a yoga instructor got a bunch of was a yoga instructor got a bunch of people in in West Hollywood and then people in in West Hollywood and then people in in West Hollywood and then eventually moved them all out here to eventually moved them all out here to eventually moved them all out here to Austin but what this guy was doing one Austin but what this guy was doing one Austin but what this guy was doing one of the things that he would do to his of the things that he would do to his of the things that he would do to his disciples is he would do a thing called disciples is he would do a thing called disciples is he would do a thing called The Knowing and they had to be chosen

01:45:21The Knowing and they had to be chosen The Knowing and they had to be chosen for it they had to earn it for it they had to earn it for it they had to earn it and when he would get them and bestow and when he would get them and bestow and when he would get them and bestow The Knowing upon them he would touch The Knowing upon them he would touch The Knowing upon them he would touch their head and they would have this their head and they would have this their head and they would have this incredible experience where they said incredible experience where they said incredible experience where they said they contacted God now all these people they contacted God now all these people

01:45:35they contacted God now all these people denounced him eventually they left the denounced him eventually they left the denounced him eventually they left the cult they all said he was a con man and cult they all said he was a con man and cult they all said he was a con man and this and that but they all talked about this and that but they all talked about this and that but they all talked about that that that experience and they said it was the most experience and they said it was the most experience and they said it was the most profound experience of their life that profound experience of their life that profound experience of their life that they really do feel like they came in

01:45:49they really do feel like they came in they really do feel like they came in contact with God and it's like what can contact with God and it's like what can contact with God and it's like what can a person a person a person if a person truly believes and this if a person truly believes and this if a person truly believes and this other person truly believes that they other person truly believes that they other person truly believes that they can do this to them and they have this can do this to them and they have this can do this to them and they have this moment and something does happen like moment and something does happen like

01:46:02moment and something does happen like what is is that all inside of us do what is is that all inside of us do what is is that all inside of us do people have ways of pulling that out of people have ways of pulling that out of people have ways of pulling that out of you that we've lost track of that we you that we've lost track of that we you that we've lost track of that we don't know and even an evil person who's don't know and even an evil person who's don't know and even an evil person who's running a cult and manipulating people running a cult and manipulating people running a cult and manipulating people and exploiting people still has this and exploiting people still has this

01:46:19and exploiting people still has this thing that he was able to do to them thing that he was able to do to them thing that he was able to do to them that even after they've admitted that that even after they've admitted that that even after they've admitted that this guy exploited them they say that this guy exploited them they say that this guy exploited them they say that was the most profound moment of their was the most profound moment of their was the most profound moment of their life that's interesting isn't it because life that's interesting isn't it because life that's interesting isn't it because I I I think think think um yeah there are party tricks that you

01:46:33um yeah there are party tricks that you um yeah there are party tricks that you can can can get right but is that that party trick get right but is that that party trick get right but is that that party trick if it really is a pathway to connect you if it really is a pathway to connect you if it really is a pathway to connect you at least temporarily with God that there at least temporarily with God that there at least temporarily with God that there is a thing inside of of us well that's is a thing inside of of us well that's is a thing inside of of us well that's why I went to the priest because I why I went to the priest because I

01:46:48why I went to the priest because I thought what because I'm off the floor thought what because I'm off the floor thought what because I'm off the floor right right so I thought I got to check right right so I thought I got to check right right so I thought I got to check this out cuz this is too weird and he this out cuz this is too weird and he this out cuz this is too weird and he said did he heal you and I said he did said did he heal you and I said he did said did he heal you and I said he did and he said that's all right then and he said that's all right then and he said that's all right then because the guy wasn't trying to get because the guy wasn't trying to get

01:47:01because the guy wasn't trying to get anything out of me right in fact he anything out of me right in fact he anything out of me right in fact he never charged me the first time I went never charged me the first time I went never charged me the first time I went to see him he charged to see him he charged to see him he charged me and it was like okay and then he me and it was like okay and then he me and it was like okay and then he never charged me again and he used to never charged me again and he used to never charged me again and he used to call call call me when I was sick really I wouldn't me when I was sick really I wouldn't

01:47:17me when I was sick really I wouldn't call him he knew when I was sick he'd call him he knew when I was sick he'd call him he knew when I was sick he'd call me he said yeah I need to come see call me he said yeah I need to come see call me he said yeah I need to come see you I'm like okay so he had like some you I'm like okay so he had like some you I'm like okay so he had like some sort of a direct with your energy sort of a direct with your energy sort of a direct with your energy something pretty amazing yeah and and something pretty amazing yeah and and something pretty amazing yeah and and and he could oh this is the other thing and he could oh this is the other thing

01:47:28and he could oh this is the other thing he could teach you martial arts like he could teach you martial arts like he could teach you martial arts like quickly without you having to know what quickly without you having to know what quickly without you having to know what to to to do it was a weird thing he did it do it was a weird thing he did it do it was a weird thing he did it firstly with my firstly with my firstly with my son who he got him for a couple of weeks son who he got him for a couple of weeks son who he got him for a couple of weeks and like he said I want to show you and like he said I want to show you and like he said I want to show you something and I went out there and he

01:47:44something and I went out there and he something and I went out there and he blindfolded him he had these two swords blindfolded him he had these two swords blindfolded him he had these two swords and he was doing all this you know this and he was doing all this you know this and he was doing all this you know this crazy stuff I'm like what the I said how crazy stuff I'm like what the I said how crazy stuff I'm like what the I said how did he how did he learn that so fast he did he how did he learn that so fast he did he how did he learn that so fast he said it was in him and I'm like said it was in him and I'm like said it was in him and I'm like whoa and then he started to he started

01:47:58whoa and then he started to he started whoa and then he started to he started to do a thing with he taught me how to to do a thing with he taught me how to to do a thing with he taught me how to harness this energy and to actually harness this energy and to actually harness this energy and to actually begin what seemed to be almost like begin what seemed to be almost like begin what seemed to be almost like involuntary movement and depending on involuntary movement and depending on involuntary movement and depending on the hand mode you took it would create a the hand mode you took it would create a the hand mode you took it would create a style of of Kata or self-defense I mean

01:48:17style of of Kata or self-defense I mean style of of Kata or self-defense I mean I used to do like some I used to do a I used to do like some I used to do a I used to do like some I used to do a crude martial art not crude but like a a crude martial art not crude but like a a crude martial art not crude but like a a hard martial art what was it chenai okay hard martial art what was it chenai okay hard martial art what was it chenai okay you know way back kushen karate yeah I you know way back kushen karate yeah I you know way back kushen karate yeah I think it's Korean it's Japanese it is think it's Korean it's Japanese it is

01:48:30think it's Korean it's Japanese it is yeah I can't remember but it's like you yeah I can't remember but it's like you yeah I can't remember but it's like you know I didn't stick with it but it was know I didn't stick with it but it was know I didn't stick with it but it was uh but but he he he got this whole other uh but but he he he got this whole other uh but but he he he got this whole other approach of breathing and approach of breathing and approach of breathing and visualizations that would actually draw visualizations that would actually draw visualizations that would actually draw energy into your lower chakras and then energy into your lower chakras and then

01:48:48energy into your lower chakras and then you you know you'd release the energy you you know you'd release the energy you you know you'd release the energy and it would create this kind of and it would create this kind of and it would create this kind of movement and I showed it to a friend of movement and I showed it to a friend of movement and I showed it to a friend of mine who was a martial artist and I said mine who was a martial artist and I said mine who was a martial artist and I said tell me about the footwork I'm doing tell me about the footwork I'm doing tell me about the footwork I'm doing here and what I'm doing and he looked at here and what I'm doing and he looked at

01:49:00here and what I'm doing and he looked at me he says that looks really good to me me he says that looks really good to me me he says that looks really good to me I said it's it was kind of like uh I said it's it was kind of like uh I said it's it was kind of like uh what's that really soft kind of mar ta what's that really soft kind of mar ta what's that really soft kind of mar ta it was like that I was doing stuff like it was like that I was doing stuff like it was like that I was doing stuff like that it was crazy and it was was really that it was crazy and it was was really that it was crazy and it was was really a great release but it was about a great release but it was about

01:49:13a great release but it was about visualization and visualization and visualization and breath yeah and the release of those breath yeah and the release of those breath yeah and the release of those that energy that you pent up from all that energy that you pent up from all that energy that you pent up from all around around around that you visualized coming manifesting that you visualized coming manifesting that you visualized coming manifesting itself in you there's got to be itself in you there's got to be itself in you there's got to be something to all that stuff people have something to all that stuff people have

01:49:29something to all that stuff people have been practicing taichi for a long time been practicing taichi for a long time been practicing taichi for a long time yeah they wouldn't be practicing to save yeah they wouldn't be practicing to save yeah they wouldn't be practicing to save movements for all these years if it movements for all these years if it movements for all these years if it didn't do something yeah pretty didn't do something yeah pretty didn't do something yeah pretty interesting yeah it keeps people young interesting yeah it keeps people young interesting yeah it keeps people young and healthy they do it in ch you see and healthy they do it in ch you see

01:49:41and healthy they do it in ch you see groups of people out in in Asia sort of groups of people out in in Asia sort of groups of people out in in Asia sort of out there in groups do it all in unison out there in groups do it all in unison out there in groups do it all in unison it's like it's a good thing exercise it's like it's a good thing exercise it's like it's a good thing exercise yeah what do you do now for exercise oh yeah what do you do now for exercise oh yeah what do you do now for exercise oh gosh I'm terrible i've been I've come gosh I'm terrible i've been I've come gosh I'm terrible i've been I've come off I'm falling apart I got this I got off I'm falling apart I got this I got

01:49:57off I'm falling apart I got this I got dead dead guys Parts in my shoulder I've dead dead guys Parts in my shoulder I've dead dead guys Parts in my shoulder I've got you know kadab Parts my this got you know kadab Parts my this got you know kadab Parts my this shoulder fell apart this shoulder fell a shoulder fell apart this shoulder fell a shoulder fell apart this shoulder fell a hip a foot was terrible I couldn't walk hip a foot was terrible I couldn't walk hip a foot was terrible I couldn't walk for about a year almost really and so for about a year almost really and so for about a year almost really and so you know you fall down that's partially you know you fall down that's partially

01:50:12you know you fall down that's partially why I had to go and see Brea I sort of why I had to go and see Brea I sort of why I had to go and see Brea I sort of mhm get the couch potato stuff off but mhm get the couch potato stuff off but mhm get the couch potato stuff off but you know I I lift weights and I do some you know I I lift weights and I do some you know I I lift weights and I do some you know walking and stuff like that you know walking and stuff like that you know walking and stuff like that like really get your heart rate up and like really get your heart rate up and like really get your heart rate up and stuff like that so you know I'm trying stuff like that so you know I'm trying

01:50:29stuff like that so you know I'm trying Hey I'm I'm you know I'm 69 years old so Hey I'm I'm you know I'm 69 years old so Hey I'm I'm you know I'm 69 years old so it's like it's getting to be like seven it's like it's getting to be like seven it's like it's getting to be like seven decades worth you decades worth you decades worth you know but I want to stay fit if I can and know but I want to stay fit if I can and know but I want to stay fit if I can and I B I bang myself up a little too much I B I bang myself up a little too much I B I bang myself up a little too much in my early life so I'm paying for it in my early life so I'm paying for it

01:50:45in my early life so I'm paying for it now and like in your now and like in your now and like in your 60s man you're not there yet but stuff 60s man you're not there yet but stuff 60s man you're not there yet but stuff starts like giving up on you y y it's starts like giving up on you y y it's starts like giving up on you y y it's like I feel it in my 50s oh yeah how how like I feel it in my 50s oh yeah how how like I feel it in my 50s oh yeah how how old are you old are you old are you 57 58 is when it starts man oh Jesus 57 58 is when it starts man oh Jesus 57 58 is when it starts man oh Jesus yeah that's what I that's what that's yeah that's what I that's what that's

01:51:02yeah that's what I that's what that's that's when I first noticed it was like that's when I first noticed it was like that's when I first noticed it was like oh what's going on with this here the oh what's going on with this here the oh what's going on with this here the shoulder and and I went down to rear and shoulder and and I went down to rear and shoulder and and I went down to rear and of course we shot it up with stem cells of course we shot it up with stem cells of course we shot it up with stem cells and it was good for like two years you and it was good for like two years you and it was good for like two years you know you just got to keep going back

01:51:14know you just got to keep going back know you just got to keep going back yeah yeah I didn't go back often enough yeah yeah I didn't go back often enough yeah yeah I didn't go back often enough that's the thing I think it's just your that's the thing I think it's just your that's the thing I think it's just your body's just not going to heal the way it body's just not going to heal the way it body's just not going to heal the way it did when you were younger unless you did when you were younger unless you did when you were younger unless you consistently get therapy for that yeah consistently get therapy for that yeah

01:51:24consistently get therapy for that yeah yeah you're in good shape though yeah I yeah you're in good shape though yeah I yeah you're in good shape though yeah I mean yeah so I was in reasonable shape mean yeah so I was in reasonable shape mean yeah so I was in reasonable shape at 58 and uh I think I'm in reasonable at 58 and uh I think I'm in reasonable at 58 and uh I think I'm in reasonable shape now but I'm I'm just uh you know shape now but I'm I'm just uh you know shape now but I'm I'm just uh you know it's just trying to push the old man off it's just trying to push the old man off it's just trying to push the old man off and using various methods to do it you

01:51:37and using various methods to do it you and using various methods to do it you know yeah that's what it is keep the know yeah that's what it is keep the know yeah that's what it is keep the body as young as you possibly can yeah body as young as you possibly can yeah body as young as you possibly can yeah yeah and demand a lot from yeah and demand a lot from yeah and demand a lot from it that's what I do yeah I just demand a it that's what I do yeah I just demand a it that's what I do yeah I just demand a lot and make sure I recover I think a lot and make sure I recover I think a lot and make sure I recover I think a lot of it's about meditation too you lot of it's about meditation too you

01:51:54lot of it's about meditation too you know you can actually um get into a good know you can actually um get into a good know you can actually um get into a good head space that kind of cools you out head space that kind of cools you out head space that kind of cools you out and stops the stress even no matter and stops the stress even no matter and stops the stress even no matter what's going on I'm going to have to do what's going on I'm going to have to do what's going on I'm going to have to do it tonight when I find out whether I it tonight when I find out whether I it tonight when I find out whether I still have a home or not you know yeah still have a home or not you know yeah

01:52:07still have a home or not you know yeah so well if anything looks demonic it's so well if anything looks demonic it's so well if anything looks demonic it's the fires in Los Angeles yeah I remember the fires in Los Angeles yeah I remember the fires in Los Angeles yeah I remember uh one time we were filming Fear Factor uh one time we were filming Fear Factor uh one time we were filming Fear Factor and we had a drive home we had to cancel and we had a drive home we had to cancel and we had a drive home we had to cancel the shoot or end it early and drive home the shoot or end it early and drive home the shoot or end it early and drive home because the fires had hit and this was

01:52:20because the fires had hit and this was because the fires had hit and this was like up uh we were off the five like up uh we were off the five like up uh we were off the five and driving home for 50 minutes on the and driving home for 50 minutes on the and driving home for 50 minutes on the highway the right side of the highway highway the right side of the highway highway the right side of the highway was in Flames yeah like Lord of the was in Flames yeah like Lord of the was in Flames yeah like Lord of the Rings like Sauron is coming over the top Rings like Sauron is coming over the top Rings like Sauron is coming over the top it looked [ __ ] insane it look it's

01:52:36it looked [ __ ] insane it look it's it looked [ __ ] insane it look it's biblical yeah it looks insane and you biblical yeah it looks insane and you biblical yeah it looks insane and you got to be careful too cuz you could got to be careful too cuz you could got to be careful too cuz you could die can't breathe I mean come on if you die can't breathe I mean come on if you die can't breathe I mean come on if you can't breathe or if the cars in front of can't breathe or if the cars in front of can't breathe or if the cars in front of you catch fire and the wind blows this you catch fire and the wind blows this you catch fire and the wind blows this way and all the cars Catch Fire and you

01:52:47way and all the cars Catch Fire and you way and all the cars Catch Fire and you can't get off the road cuz the to the can't get off the road cuz the to the can't get off the road cuz the to the right of you is on fire to the left you right of you is on fire to the left you right of you is on fire to the left you is on fire and the fire is coming the is on fire and the fire is coming the is on fire and the fire is coming the highway oh yeah yeah people have died highway oh yeah yeah people have died highway oh yeah yeah people have died that way and it can happen in an instant that way and it can happen in an instant that way and it can happen in an instant yep I got I got hung once by

01:53:00yep I got I got hung once by yep I got I got hung once by mistake I I and it was I was on a film mistake I I and it was I was on a film mistake I I and it was I was on a film set and I was I had my neck in a noose set and I was I had my neck in a noose set and I was I had my neck in a noose and I and I was directing the film so I and I and I was directing the film so I and I and I was directing the film so I was I'm on a ladder and I'm like so I'll was I'm on a ladder and I'm like so I'll was I'm on a ladder and I'm like so I'll just be hanging here like this and then just be hanging here like this and then just be hanging here like this and then the next thing I knew I was waking up I

01:53:15the next thing I knew I was waking up I the next thing I knew I was waking up I was on the floor you know and there were was on the floor you know and there were was on the floor you know and there were all these people standing over looking all these people standing over looking all these people standing over looking at me and I'm saying what are you people at me and I'm saying what are you people at me and I'm saying what are you people doing get to work you know it was like doing get to work you know it was like doing get to work you know it was like and they said well you hung yourself I and they said well you hung yourself I

01:53:25and they said well you hung yourself I said whoa you kidding me it happens in said whoa you kidding me it happens in said whoa you kidding me it happens in an instant and you don't know it it an instant and you don't know it it an instant and you don't know it it wasn't painful nothing I was just gone wasn't painful nothing I was just gone wasn't painful nothing I was just gone well you probably got choked out yeah well you probably got choked out yeah well you probably got choked out yeah choked out by the by The Noose and then choked out by the by The Noose and then choked out by the by The Noose and then they grabbed me by the legs and got the they grabbed me by the legs and got the

01:53:37they grabbed me by the legs and got the Rope off and Jesus like during Rope off and Jesus like during Rope off and Jesus like during Braveheart it was oh really oh Braveheart it was oh really oh Braveheart it was oh really oh wow was funny so I I found out what it wow was funny so I I found out what it wow was funny so I I found out what it was like to sort of going into the next was like to sort of going into the next was like to sort of going into the next realm but of course uh we we did uh uh I realm but of course uh we we did uh uh I realm but of course uh we we did uh uh I I was fortunate enough to work with uh I was fortunate enough to work with uh

01:53:55I was fortunate enough to work with uh with horon with horon with horon Gracie 39 years ago yeah you know he' Gracie 39 years ago yeah you know he' Gracie 39 years ago yeah you know he' just come from Brazil well I remember just come from Brazil well I remember just come from Brazil well I remember when you were doing Lethal Weapon it was when you were doing Lethal Weapon it was when you were doing Lethal Weapon it was the first time I'd ever seen Jiu-Jitsu the first time I'd ever seen Jiu-Jitsu the first time I'd ever seen Jiu-Jitsu in a movie a leg choke on film yeah he in a movie a leg choke on film yeah he in a movie a leg choke on film yeah he taught yeah Horan taught me the leg joke

01:54:08taught yeah Horan taught me the leg joke taught yeah Horan taught me the leg joke he said now you grab your foot and you he said now you grab your foot and you he said now you grab your foot and you okay and it was uh it was cool but it okay and it was uh it was cool but it okay and it was uh it was cool but it was uh uh now my girlfriend does it and was uh uh now my girlfriend does it and was uh uh now my girlfriend does it and she's like a purple belt so I've learned she's like a purple belt so I've learned she's like a purple belt so I've learned really yeah I've learned not to talk really yeah I've learned not to talk

01:54:20really yeah I've learned not to talk back she's legit she's legit yeah belts back she's legit she's legit yeah belts back she's legit she's legit yeah belts Purple belt is basically a black belt Purple belt is basically a black belt Purple belt is basically a black belt you just need a little bit more time yep you just need a little bit more time yep you just need a little bit more time yep if you can get I always tell all if you can get I always tell all if you can get I always tell all Jiu-Jitsu students if you can get to Jiu-Jitsu students if you can get to Jiu-Jitsu students if you can get to Purple belt you are a black belt you're Purple belt you are a black belt you're

01:54:31Purple belt you are a black belt you're going to be a black belt oh she will you going to be a black belt oh she will you going to be a black belt oh she will you just got to stay on that path no she is just got to stay on that path no she is just got to stay on that path no she is she's just obsessed with it so and she's she's just obsessed with it so and she's she's just obsessed with it so and she's you know as I say I don't talk back to I you know as I say I don't talk back to I you know as I say I don't talk back to I think the purple belt is the hardest think the purple belt is the hardest think the purple belt is the hardest belt to get to it is cuz it's just like

01:54:42belt to get to it is cuz it's just like belt to get to it is cuz it's just like in the beginning you're just getting in the beginning you're just getting in the beginning you're just getting crushed mhm that's Jiu-Jitsu especially crushed mhm that's Jiu-Jitsu especially crushed mhm that's Jiu-Jitsu especially for women it's so difficult for women for women it's so difficult for women for women it's so difficult for women because they don't have the physical because they don't have the physical because they don't have the physical strength that the men have yeah because strength that the men have yeah because strength that the men have yeah because you can kind of get away with a lot of

01:54:52you can kind of get away with a lot of you can kind of get away with a lot of if you're a big strong guy you can get if you're a big strong guy you can get if you're a big strong guy you can get away with a lot of [ __ ] but then by the away with a lot of [ __ ] but then by the away with a lot of [ __ ] but then by the time you get to Purple belt like man you time you get to Purple belt like man you time you get to Purple belt like man you have to have real technique and you have have to have real technique and you have have to have real technique and you have to have a real understanding of what's to have a real understanding of what's

01:55:02to have a real understanding of what's going on she's got a good mind and I going on she's got a good mind and I going on she's got a good mind and I think she's like like a chess player it think she's like like a chess player it think she's like like a chess player it is like that CU I know from fighting is like that CU I know from fighting is like that CU I know from fighting with with with her she she wins arguments when she's her she she wins arguments when she's her she she wins arguments when she's wrong so sometimes you let them win wrong so sometimes you let them win wrong so sometimes you let them win though right yeah have to just like you though right yeah have to just like you

01:55:19though right yeah have to just like you got to walk away oh yeah sometimes it's got to walk away oh yeah sometimes it's got to walk away oh yeah sometimes it's like you got to go okay it's my second like you got to go okay it's my second like you got to go okay it's my second thought in my first action yes yes yes thought in my first action yes yes yes thought in my first action yes yes yes yes yes yeah but she got the purple belt yes yes yeah but she got the purple belt yes yes yeah but she got the purple belt that's amazing yeah good for her it's that's amazing yeah good for her it's that's amazing yeah good for her it's good for her yeah yeah a woman black

01:55:35good for her yeah yeah a woman black good for her yeah yeah a woman black belt that's an unbelievably exceptional belt that's an unbelievably exceptional belt that's an unbelievably exceptional woman they can get to that because they woman they can get to that because they woman they can get to that because they have to roll with men and it's just have to roll with men and it's just have to roll with men and it's just signicant disadvantage she do big dudes signicant disadvantage she do big dudes signicant disadvantage she do big dudes and stuff and she's like you know she and stuff and she's like you know she and stuff and she's like you know she she's done some exceptional things I've

01:55:48she's done some exceptional things I've she's done some exceptional things I've heard so it's like uh yeah it's pretty heard so it's like uh yeah it's pretty heard so it's like uh yeah it's pretty good and that's awesome yeah yeah yeah I good and that's awesome yeah yeah yeah I good and that's awesome yeah yeah yeah I didn't follow it up you can still do it didn't follow it up you can still do it didn't follow it up you can still do it no I'm a more baseball bat gun kind of no I'm a more baseball bat gun kind of no I'm a more baseball bat gun kind of guy you know I'm in trouble I just like guy you know I'm in trouble I just like

01:56:01guy you know I'm in trouble I just like you know that kind of stuff well be you know that kind of stuff well be you know that kind of stuff well be careful with that in California you wind careful with that in California you wind careful with that in California you wind up being in jail yeah that's true you up being in jail yeah that's true you up being in jail yeah that's true you wind up using it to protect yourself and wind up using it to protect yourself and wind up using it to protect yourself and they'll lock you up yes it's uh which is they'll lock you up yes it's uh which is they'll lock you up yes it's uh which is also evil mhm yeah that happens a bit

01:56:15also evil mhm yeah that happens a bit also evil mhm yeah that happens a bit Yeah mhm oh well it's yeah there's a Yeah mhm oh well it's yeah there's a Yeah mhm oh well it's yeah there's a perverse nature in in our society right perverse nature in in our society right perverse nature in in our society right now the law you know when you look at now the law you know when you look at now the law you know when you look at your life now and you're on your third your life now and you're on your third your life now and you're on your third act as you were saying like what what do act as you were saying like what what do act as you were saying like what what do you look forward to these days is it

01:56:30you look forward to these days is it you look forward to these days is it creating things it's creation yeah yeah creating things it's creation yeah yeah creating things it's creation yeah yeah I think it is it's about creation and uh I think it is it's about creation and uh I think it is it's about creation and uh I figure ah I'm not I'm I'm pretty I figure ah I'm not I'm I'm pretty I figure ah I'm not I'm I'm pretty average at most things uh but I'm good average at most things uh but I'm good average at most things uh but I'm good at a couple of things you know I I know at a couple of things you know I I know at a couple of things you know I I know how to tell a story on film I know how

01:56:49how to tell a story on film I know how how to tell a story on film I know how to do that I don't know that's a weird to do that I don't know that's a weird to do that I don't know that's a weird place to be but I place to be but I place to be but I think um a lot can be achieved by think um a lot can be achieved by think um a lot can be achieved by Art and Art and Art and image and you can convey a lot without image and you can convey a lot without image and you can convey a lot without actually having to say it you can do actually having to say it you can do actually having to say it you can do things to affect people emotionally or things to affect people emotionally or

01:57:09things to affect people emotionally or spiritually spiritually spiritually even without being even without being even without being overt I always I always like to overt I always I always like to overt I always I always like to reference a um just a reference a um just a reference a um just a shot that and it's in a Scott movie shot that and it's in a Scott movie shot that and it's in a Scott movie right and you don't know why it works right and you don't know why it works right and you don't know why it works but or why it's effective on some level but or why it's effective on some level but or why it's effective on some level but it's it's kind of a profound

01:57:31but it's it's kind of a profound but it's it's kind of a profound effective shot and it's that first shot effective shot and it's that first shot effective shot and it's that first shot in the Gladiator movie where he's in the Gladiator movie where he's in the Gladiator movie where he's running his hand over the wheat right running his hand over the wheat right running his hand over the wheat right with that music and stuff why does that with that music and stuff why does that with that music and stuff why does that work I don't work I don't work I don't know you can't explain it but it works know you can't explain it but it works

01:57:46know you can't explain it but it works well rley Scott is a master yeah there well rley Scott is a master yeah there well rley Scott is a master yeah there that's a that's a Visionary human being that's a that's a Visionary human being that's a that's a Visionary human being mhm he sees things he knows how to shoot mhm he sees things he knows how to shoot mhm he sees things he knows how to shoot yeah yeah and and that is that's really yeah yeah and and that is that's really yeah yeah and and that is that's really good it's it's a valid Pursuit I think good it's it's a valid Pursuit I think good it's it's a valid Pursuit I think in storytelling if you can do that

01:58:03in storytelling if you can do that in storytelling if you can do that everything every time he goes out there everything every time he goes out there everything every time he goes out there it's a it's eye candy It's A Feast for it's a it's eye candy It's A Feast for it's a it's eye candy It's A Feast for the eyes you know do you have different the eyes you know do you have different the eyes you know do you have different goals with like different projects like goals with like different projects like goals with like different projects like obviously Flight Risk is entertainment obviously Flight Risk is entertainment

01:58:14obviously Flight Risk is entertainment it's fun it's entertaining entertainment it's fun it's entertaining entertainment it's fun it's entertaining entertainment yeah and uh yes different goals and it yeah and uh yes different goals and it yeah and uh yes different goals and it was the other thing too is it's like was the other thing too is it's like was the other thing too is it's like we're living in a different time now in we're living in a different time now in we're living in a different time now in the film world I mean everything's the film world I mean everything's the film world I mean everything's upside down and you have to compete in a upside down and you have to compete in a

01:58:28upside down and you have to compete in a medium where you have less time less medium where you have less time less medium where you have less time less money do it fast do it now and it's like money do it fast do it now and it's like money do it fast do it now and it's like wow can I do that I always had the wow can I do that I always had the wow can I do that I always had the luxury of like you know big budget and luxury of like you know big budget and luxury of like you know big budget and 3,000 people on horses and all this kind 3,000 people on horses and all this kind 3,000 people on horses and all this kind of stuff or you know and and was able to

01:58:44of stuff or you know and and was able to of stuff or you know and and was able to take my time with stuff but I had 22 take my time with stuff but I had 22 take my time with stuff but I had 22 days days days and here here you got tell the story in and here here you got tell the story in and here here you got tell the story in 20 two days so I felt the challenge of 20 two days so I felt the challenge of 20 two days so I felt the challenge of being able to do that and being able to being able to do that and being able to being able to do that and being able to make make make something that really got people that something that really got people that

01:59:00something that really got people that they could watch it and enjoy it you they could watch it and enjoy it you they could watch it and enjoy it you know and I'm glad you saw it I'm glad know and I'm glad you saw it I'm glad know and I'm glad you saw it I'm glad you liked it um and that's all I want I you liked it um and that's all I want I you liked it um and that's all I want I just want people to have a nice little just want people to have a nice little just want people to have a nice little ride a fun ride entertainment but yes ride a fun ride entertainment but yes ride a fun ride entertainment but yes you have different goals with things I you have different goals with things I

01:59:13you have different goals with things I mean the next thing I'm going to tackle mean the next thing I'm going to tackle mean the next thing I'm going to tackle is more profound for me it's going to is more profound for me it's going to is more profound for me it's going to take more out of take more out of take more out of me this is the resurrection story yeah me this is the resurrection story yeah me this is the resurrection story yeah and I even have to change my entire life and I even have to change my entire life and I even have to change my entire life to do it how to do it how to do it how so you can't go into a so you can't go into a

01:59:32so you can't go into a project as profound in nature as project as profound in nature as project as profound in nature as that without somehow preparing yourself that without somehow preparing yourself that without somehow preparing yourself for it it's like it's like preparing for for it it's like it's like preparing for for it it's like it's like preparing for a fight you know it's like you have to a fight you know it's like you have to a fight you know it's like you have to be fit for the fight and yeah so you be fit for the fight and yeah so you be fit for the fight and yeah so you have to spiritually prepare yourself for have to spiritually prepare yourself for

01:59:48have to spiritually prepare yourself for that and um and that's that's going to that and um and that's that's going to that and um and that's that's going to take some sacrifice and um because you take some sacrifice and um because you take some sacrifice and um because you know oh you know I profess this and I know oh you know I profess this and I know oh you know I profess this and I profess that I'm not a great example of profess that I'm not a great example of profess that I'm not a great example of Christianity you know I'm just you know Christianity you know I'm just you know Christianity you know I'm just you know I'm flawed and I make a lot of mistakes

02:00:04I'm flawed and I make a lot of mistakes I'm flawed and I make a lot of mistakes but I have to try and be better somehow but I have to try and be better somehow but I have to try and be better somehow in order to go in and make that in order to go in and make that in order to go in and make that film so what does that mean I think I film so what does that mean I think I film so what does that mean I think I know what it means you know well one of know what it means you know well one of know what it means you know well one of the things that I thought was uh the things that I thought was uh the things that I thought was uh fascinating was reading uh and listening

02:00:19fascinating was reading uh and listening fascinating was reading uh and listening to Jim cavel talk about his experience to Jim cavel talk about his experience to Jim cavel talk about his experience Christ in your film yeah that it just Christ in your film yeah that it just Christ in your film yeah that it just truly changed that guy's the course of truly changed that guy's the course of truly changed that guy's the course of his whole life well it was fascinating his whole life well it was fascinating his whole life well it was fascinating to watch him work actually and most of to watch him work actually and most of

02:00:32to watch him work actually and most of the time I just like backed away because the time I just like backed away because the time I just like backed away because he was doing something that and I've he was doing something that and I've he was doing something that and I've seen a lot of people seen a lot of people seen a lot of people portray Jesus in films right and I never portray Jesus in films right and I never portray Jesus in films right and I never buy buy buy it you can't quite buy it something it you can't quite buy it something it you can't quite buy it something Creeps in the color that's not something Creeps in the color that's not something

02:00:51Creeps in the color that's not something something's right or something's right or something's right or discordant it and some of them are discordant it and some of them are discordant it and some of them are pretty good but you never quite believe pretty good but you never quite believe pretty good but you never quite believe it all the way what was the Willam defo it all the way what was the Willam defo it all the way what was the Willam defo movie oh uh that was a Scorsese film movie oh uh that was a Scorsese film movie oh uh that was a Scorsese film right what was that um called The Last right what was that um called The Last

02:01:05right what was that um called The Last Temptation that's right that's right Temptation that's right that's right Temptation that's right that's right which interestingly enough I was in a which interestingly enough I was in a which interestingly enough I was in a hotel in the seavoy and I had food hotel in the seavoy and I had food hotel in the seavoy and I had food poisoning I was near dead from I ate a poisoning I was near dead from I ate a poisoning I was near dead from I ate a bad oyster in London and I was dying in bad oyster in London and I was dying in bad oyster in London and I was dying in a hotel room and I couldn't even leave a hotel room and I couldn't even leave

02:01:22a hotel room and I couldn't even leave it was the worst I think it was like it was the worst I think it was like it was the worst I think it was like salmonella or something and I saw this salmonella or something and I saw this salmonella or something and I saw this cord on the side of the bed and I pulled cord on the side of the bed and I pulled cord on the side of the bed and I pulled it and all of a sudden a door opened up it and all of a sudden a door opened up it and all of a sudden a door opened up and a butler like Jeeves came in he says and a butler like Jeeves came in he says and a butler like Jeeves came in he says yes sir and I'm like whoa and I said I'm

02:01:36yes sir and I'm like whoa and I said I'm yes sir and I'm like whoa and I said I'm really sick I said what do you think I really sick I said what do you think I really sick I said what do you think I should eat might I suggest some warm should eat might I suggest some warm should eat might I suggest some warm consum and a cup of tea I said Okay so consum and a cup of tea I said Okay so consum and a cup of tea I said Okay so this Butler took care of me in this this Butler took care of me in this this Butler took care of me in this hotel but while I was there scores he hotel but while I was there scores he hotel but while I was there scores he calls the room and she says come here I

02:01:51calls the room and she says come here I calls the room and she says come here I want to talk to you so I go in and talk want to talk to you so I go in and talk want to talk to you so I go in and talk to Martin and he's in his room and all to Martin and he's in his room and all to Martin and he's in his room and all the windows the screens are drawn he's the windows the screens are drawn he's the windows the screens are drawn he's got 18 different TVs going on at the got 18 different TVs going on at the got 18 different TVs going on at the same time in this dark room and he's same time in this dark room and he's same time in this dark room and he's talking to me about The Last Temptation

02:02:02talking to me about The Last Temptation talking to me about The Last Temptation Of Christ and he wants me to play Jesus Of Christ and he wants me to play Jesus Of Christ and he wants me to play Jesus and I said whoa I'm not doing

02:02:15it and I I sort of got out of there and it and I I sort of got out of there and then I went back to my room and they then I went back to my room and they then I went back to my room and they changed my room now this is really weird changed my room now this is really weird changed my room now this is really weird they had changed my room and moved my they had changed my room and moved my they had changed my room and moved my stuff and they told me they were going stuff and they told me they were going stuff and they told me they were going to do it but I forgot so I'm using a key to do it but I forgot so I'm using a key

02:02:26to do it but I forgot so I'm using a key to get into my room and it won't work to get into my room and it won't work to get into my room and it won't work and the door opens up all of a sudden and the door opens up all of a sudden and the door opens up all of a sudden and it's Keith Richards in his and it's Keith Richards in his and it's Keith Richards in his underpants standing there staring underpants standing there staring underpants standing there staring through me like like and and there's a through me like like and and there's a through me like like and and there's a girl in a mink coat walking around it girl in a mink coat walking around it

02:02:36girl in a mink coat walking around it mink coat and nothing else walking in mink coat and nothing else walking in mink coat and nothing else walking in the background and and Keith Richard is the background and and Keith Richard is the background and and Keith Richard is standing there in his underpants with a standing there in his underpants with a standing there in his underpants with a spliff and I'm like I I tried to explain spliff and I'm like I I tried to explain spliff and I'm like I I tried to explain that I thought it was my room but it that I thought it was my room but it that I thought it was my room but it wasn't and you know it was ridiculous

02:02:49wasn't and you know it was ridiculous wasn't and you know it was ridiculous I'm 26 years old and he just looks at me I'm 26 years old and he just looks at me I'm 26 years old and he just looks at me like shuts the door in my face I thought like shuts the door in my face I thought like shuts the door in my face I thought well that was my that was my meeting well that was my that was my meeting well that was my that was my meeting with Keith Richards he slammed the door with Keith Richards he slammed the door with Keith Richards he slammed the door in my face I was like it's fantastic you in my face I was like it's fantastic you

02:03:02in my face I was like it's fantastic you know anyway but what were we talking know anyway but what were we talking know anyway but what were we talking about Christ he did something I think about Christ he did something I think about Christ he did something I think that nobody else did and I think he that nobody else did and I think he that nobody else did and I think he pulled it off because I to I totally pulled it off because I to I totally pulled it off because I to I totally like believed it I believed it too and like believed it I believed it too and like believed it I believed it too and it was like what did he do he emptied it was like what did he do he emptied

02:03:18it was like what did he do he emptied himself out yeah and he invited himself out yeah and he invited himself out yeah and he invited something else in and he left it he he something else in and he left it he he something else in and he left it he he just he didn't try anything he just he just he didn't try anything he just he just he didn't try anything he just he emptied himself out and he emptied himself out and he emptied himself out and he meditated and he let Christ in and that meditated and he let Christ in and that meditated and he let Christ in and that role seemed to have had a profound role seemed to have had a profound

02:03:36role seemed to have had a profound effect on him it did as a human being oh effect on him it did as a human being oh effect on him it did as a human being oh absolutely and kind of [ __ ] him up in absolutely and kind of [ __ ] him up in absolutely and kind of [ __ ] him up in his career a little bit because people his career a little bit because people his career a little bit because people Associated him entirely with that film Associated him entirely with that film Associated him entirely with that film and then they Associated him with and then they Associated him with and then they Associated him with Christianity and then they Associated Christianity and then they Associated

02:03:51Christianity and then they Associated him with right politics and yeah yeah him with right politics and yeah yeah him with right politics and yeah yeah and then you know he he got sidetracked and then you know he he got sidetracked and then you know he he got sidetracked by a few guys I mean there's some people by a few guys I mean there's some people by a few guys I mean there's some people out there like they get in your ear and out there like they get in your ear and out there like they get in your ear and it's like you it's like cashes you know it's like you it's like cashes you know it's like you it's like cashes you know talking to and they get you up to make a

02:04:05talking to and they get you up to make a talking to and they get you up to make a speech somewhere and next you know it's speech somewhere and next you know it's speech somewhere and next you know it's like you know people throwing eggs at like you know people throwing eggs at like you know people throwing eggs at you and like yeah and you wonder you you and like yeah and you wonder you you and like yeah and you wonder you know should I even be saying know should I even be saying know should I even be saying this and uh so he stepped on a bunch of this and uh so he stepped on a bunch of this and uh so he stepped on a bunch of landmines but um yeah it did have a

02:04:20landmines but um yeah it did have a landmines but um yeah it did have a profound effect on him but I think he profound effect on him but I think he profound effect on him but I think he was he he was already mostly there was he he was already mostly there was he he was already mostly there anyway and I noticed that because I when anyway and I noticed that because I when anyway and I noticed that because I when I was trying to cast it I thought who I was trying to cast it I thought who I was trying to cast it I thought who could play this and I saw the opening could play this and I saw the opening could play this and I saw the opening shot from Terry Malik's film which was

02:04:33shot from Terry Malik's film which was shot from Terry Malik's film which was The Thin Red Line The Thin Red Line The Thin Red Line MH um and uh and it was just a big MH um and uh and it was just a big MH um and uh and it was just a big closeup of cisel and there was something closeup of cisel and there was something closeup of cisel and there was something otherworldly and childlike going on otherworldly and childlike going on otherworldly and childlike going on there in the closeup and I thought who's there in the closeup and I thought who's there in the closeup and I thought who's that guy he's amazing of course you that guy he's amazing of course you

02:04:48that guy he's amazing of course you couldn't keep the blue eyes you had to couldn't keep the blue eyes you had to couldn't keep the blue eyes you had to you had to trade him out so I changed you had to trade him out so I changed you had to trade him out so I changed the color of his eyes to Brown and and the color of his eyes to Brown and and the color of his eyes to Brown and and all that stuff so it looked like he came all that stuff so it looked like he came all that stuff so it looked like he came from the region right but uh um amazing from the region right but uh um amazing from the region right but uh um amazing what he already had a quality an what he already had a quality an

02:05:04what he already had a quality an ethereal kind of otherworldliness space ethereal kind of otherworldliness space ethereal kind of otherworldliness space cadet quality yeah that and he's he's cadet quality yeah that and he's he's cadet quality yeah that and he's he's still kind of like that he's still like still kind of like that he's still like still kind of like that he's still like wow yeah he's I I want I wish I had met wow yeah he's I I want I wish I had met wow yeah he's I I want I wish I had met him or I haven't met him still but I him or I haven't met him still but I him or I haven't met him still but I wish i' had seen him before and then wish i' had seen him before and then

02:05:21wish i' had seen him before and then after after after you to see like what did that role you to see like what did that role you to see like what did that role change him because it seemed to have change him because it seemed to have change him because it seemed to have strengthened his faith sure it did yeah strengthened his faith sure it did yeah strengthened his faith sure it did yeah yeah he got he got in real tight with it yeah he got he got in real tight with it yeah he got he got in real tight with it and I think he had some experiences and I think he had some experiences and I think he had some experiences while he was doing it he suffered a while he was doing it he suffered a

02:05:36while he was doing it he suffered a little you know and uh didn't he get little you know and uh didn't he get little you know and uh didn't he get struck by lightning well there's two struck by lightning well there's two struck by lightning well there's two times there was these lightning strikes times there was these lightning strikes times there was these lightning strikes happening on the set you know and there happening on the set you know and there happening on the set you know and there was this guy with him he was a young was this guy with him he was a young was this guy with him he was a young fellow one of the assistants on on the fellow one of the assistants on on the

02:05:50fellow one of the assistants on on the film his name was uh Jan and old Jan was film his name was uh Jan and old Jan was film his name was uh Jan and old Jan was like uh he's like 6 foot two Italian like uh he's like 6 foot two Italian like uh he's like 6 foot two Italian Northern Italian guy you know if he Northern Italian guy you know if he Northern Italian guy you know if he tripped in the street women would slide tripped in the street women would slide tripped in the street women would slide under him you know it was that kind of under him you know it was that kind of under him you know it was that kind of stuff the guy was like a babe magnet stuff the guy was like a babe magnet

02:06:05stuff the guy was like a babe magnet right and um and I think he was taking right and um and I think he was taking right and um and I think he was taking full advantage of the gifts he had but full advantage of the gifts he had but full advantage of the gifts he had but he got hit by lightning the first time he got hit by lightning the first time he got hit by lightning the first time getting people I we were out on the hill getting people I we were out on the hill getting people I we were out on the hill and there was a lightning storm like and there was a lightning storm like and there was a lightning storm like with the crosses and stuff oh Jesus and

02:06:19with the crosses and stuff oh Jesus and with the crosses and stuff oh Jesus and uh and the the this guy called jeppo he uh and the the this guy called jeppo he uh and the the this guy called jeppo he was a grip and he never spoke a word to was a grip and he never spoke a word to was a grip and he never spoke a word to me the whole time he's just a quiet kind me the whole time he's just a quiet kind me the whole time he's just a quiet kind of guy and I figured oh he doesn't know of guy and I figured oh he doesn't know of guy and I figured oh he doesn't know English so you know but he came up to me English so you know but he came up to me

02:06:31English so you know but he came up to me and in perfect English he said you know and in perfect English he said you know and in perfect English he said you know I think you should get all the people I think you should get all the people I think you should get all the people off the hill we could be struck by off the hill we could be struck by off the hill we could be struck by lightning and I thought oh that's a good lightning and I thought oh that's a good lightning and I thought oh that's a good idea let's get off the hill so we're idea let's get off the hill so we're idea let's get off the hill so we're moving off the hill everybody's getting moving off the hill everybody's getting

02:06:42moving off the hill everybody's getting off and this kid gets hit through the off and this kid gets hit through the off and this kid gets hit through the umbrella this Yan guy he gets Zapped by umbrella this Yan guy he gets Zapped by umbrella this Yan guy he gets Zapped by lightning right but he's 22 and he goes lightning right but he's 22 and he goes lightning right but he's 22 and he goes the Disco all night and the Disco all night and the Disco all night and D you know he's doing the whole you know D you know he's doing the whole you know D you know he's doing the whole you know 22 experience and he he comes back the 22 experience and he he comes back the

02:06:5922 experience and he he comes back the next day and he's like yeah it was great next day and he's like yeah it was great next day and he's like yeah it was great and then he was with Jim the second time and then he was with Jim the second time and then he was with Jim the second time it happened but this time I found him in it happened but this time I found him in it happened but this time I found him in a Fiat Bambino with his knees up around a Fiat Bambino with his knees up around a Fiat Bambino with his knees up around his ears like waiting for the third his ears like waiting for the third his ears like waiting for the third strike he was like this this just

02:07:13strike he was like this this just strike he was like this this just doesn't happen twice in the third strike doesn't happen twice in the third strike doesn't happen twice in the third strike and he says I have to change my and he says I have to change my and he says I have to change my life like so it was pretty fun that life like so it was pretty fun that life like so it was pretty fun that movie must have had a profound effect on movie must have had a profound effect on movie must have had a profound effect on a lot of people right cuz you were you a lot of people right cuz you were you a lot of people right cuz you were you were doing something that wasn't just a

02:07:28were doing something that wasn't just a were doing something that wasn't just a film it was yeah ver kind of yeah and it film it was yeah ver kind of yeah and it film it was yeah ver kind of yeah and it was strengthening people's faith that was strengthening people's faith that was strengthening people's faith that film was a I mean profound success and a film was a I mean profound success and a film was a I mean profound success and a lot of people dismissed the idea of it lot of people dismissed the idea of it lot of people dismissed the idea of it even yes you know especially in even yes you know especially in even yes you know especially in Hollywood I mean you had to self fund

02:07:44Hollywood I mean you had to self fund Hollywood I mean you had to self fund all that right yes it was self-funded all that right yes it was self-funded all that right yes it was self-funded and uh and it was a a very strange and uh and it was a a very strange and uh and it was a a very strange experience that one cuz I and I put the experience that one cuz I and I put the experience that one cuz I and I put the money in I thought well maybe I'll break money in I thought well maybe I'll break money in I thought well maybe I'll break even and it was uh then I got these even and it was uh then I got these even and it was uh then I got these messages back all the majors wouldn't

02:07:57messages back all the majors wouldn't messages back all the majors wouldn't distribute it so I was like nobody will distribute it so I was like nobody will distribute it so I was like nobody will distribute it okay I guess i' I've lost distribute it okay I guess i' I've lost distribute it okay I guess i' I've lost you know the money but it was worth the you know the money but it was worth the you know the money but it was worth the experience and um experience and um experience and um so um one guy was left in the room at so um one guy was left in the room at so um one guy was left in the room at the end when the when the dust settled the end when the when the dust settled

02:08:12the end when the when the dust settled it was some guy he said I I'll it was some guy he said I I'll it was some guy he said I I'll distribute and he he had a little distribute and he he had a little distribute and he he had a little company called New Market and they company called New Market and they company called New Market and they distributed like one or two films before distributed like one or two films before distributed like one or two films before and uh I think it was a Charlie Theron and uh I think it was a Charlie Theron and uh I think it was a Charlie Theron movie called a monster about that movie called a monster about that

02:08:25movie called a monster about that horrible serial kill and and uh he said horrible serial kill and and uh he said horrible serial kill and and uh he said I'll do it and you know it was just I'll do it and you know it was just I'll do it and you know it was just really Basics I went and I met the really Basics I went and I met the really Basics I went and I met the exhibitors and you know and this guy was exhibitors and you know and this guy was exhibitors and you know and this guy was like the distributor this little company like the distributor this little company like the distributor this little company it was just him and a a toothless dog it was just him and a a toothless dog

02:08:42it was just him and a a toothless dog and a fax and an assistant and it was and a fax and an assistant and it was and a fax and an assistant and it was like okay what's all the smoking mirrors like okay what's all the smoking mirrors like okay what's all the smoking mirrors about this with between the distribution about this with between the distribution about this with between the distribution and exhibition I met I made handshake and exhibition I met I made handshake and exhibition I met I made handshake deals with all the exhibitors yeah we'll deals with all the exhibitors yeah we'll deals with all the exhibitors yeah we'll show this I said okay and then we put it

02:08:57show this I said okay and then we put it show this I said okay and then we put it out there and it went out nobody out there and it went out nobody out there and it went out nobody expected it to do much but it did expected it to do much but it did expected it to do much but it did phenomenally well and um and there was phenomenally well and um and there was phenomenally well and um and there was this kind of thing in town in the town this kind of thing in town in the town this kind of thing in town in the town they said did anyone just see that they said did anyone just see that they said did anyone just see that anyone just see what that guy anyone just see what that guy

02:09:14anyone just see what that guy did can't let that guy do that again and did can't let that guy do that again and did can't let that guy do that again and yeah we don't want anyone doing that you yeah we don't want anyone doing that you yeah we don't want anyone doing that you know because it sort of walked around know because it sort of walked around know because it sort of walked around the entire system yes and the entire system yes and the entire system yes and scored right so there was two things scored right so there was two things scored right so there was two things there was resistance to the Christianity there was resistance to the Christianity

02:09:30there was resistance to the Christianity aspect of it and promotion of aspect of it and promotion of aspect of it and promotion of Christianity and then there was Christianity and then there was Christianity and then there was resistance to the fact that you went resistance to the fact that you went resistance to the fact that you went outside the system it was outside well I outside the system it was outside well I outside the system it was outside well I had no alternative right because no had no alternative right because no had no alternative right because no major would back it because of the major would back it because of the

02:09:40major would back it because of the Christianity aspect of it I guess yeah Christianity aspect of it I guess yeah Christianity aspect of it I guess yeah well rubert Murdoch said you know he well rubert Murdoch said you know he well rubert Murdoch said you know he wanted to and then he said and then wanted to and then he said and then wanted to and then he said and then somebody advised him and said he'd be somebody advised him and said he'd be somebody advised him and said he'd be out of business in five years ruer out of business in five years ruer out of business in five years ruer Murdoch wow in 5 years if he distributed Murdoch wow in 5 years if he distributed

02:09:53Murdoch wow in 5 years if he distributed that if he yeah and I was like wow if that if he yeah and I was like wow if that if he yeah and I was like wow if he's scared what I'm like I'm got to I'm he's scared what I'm like I'm got to I'm he's scared what I'm like I'm got to I'm going to crash and burn here but it going to crash and burn here but it going to crash and burn here but it actually did all right it did phenomenal actually did all right it did phenomenal actually did all right it did phenomenal yeah and then um again I tried to uh yeah and then um again I tried to uh yeah and then um again I tried to uh then I went I went with a studio on then I went I went with a studio on

02:10:07then I went I went with a studio on Apocalypto but man that didn't work out Apocalypto but man that didn't work out Apocalypto but man that didn't work out so well it didn't no in what way well it so well it didn't no in what way well it so well it didn't no in what way well it was interesting the the was interesting the the was interesting the the film was a film with it had no film was a film with it had no film was a film with it had no stars it was in another language and it stars it was in another language and it stars it was in another language and it came out on a weekend with another film came out on a weekend with another film

02:10:25came out on a weekend with another film that had Leo Leo in it and another film that had Leo Leo in it and another film that had Leo Leo in it and another film that had Cameron Diaz in it and um so that had Cameron Diaz in it and um so that had Cameron Diaz in it and um so those three films came out on the same those three films came out on the same those three films came out on the same weekend and the one with no stars and weekend and the one with no stars and weekend and the one with no stars and without the language won the weekend without the language won the weekend without the language won the weekend monetarily it won the box office by a monetarily it won the box office by a

02:10:42monetarily it won the box office by a narrow margin on the other narrow margin on the other narrow margin on the other two and uh the second week out uh Disney two and uh the second week out uh Disney two and uh the second week out uh Disney pulled the screens pulled the screens pulled the screens really yeah so I thought oh that's funny really yeah so I thought oh that's funny really yeah so I thought oh that's funny well screens are well screens are well screens are gone I guess there's another agenda gone I guess there's another agenda gone I guess there's another agenda because that was another self-funded one because that was another self-funded one

02:11:03because that was another self-funded one did they pull the screens because they did they pull the screens because they did they pull the screens because they had movies that they had already made had movies that they had already made had movies that they had already made deals with I think so but you know it's deals with I think so but you know it's deals with I think so but you know it's just it's just politics and you know and just it's just politics and you know and just it's just politics and you know and I think perhaps the distribution deal on I think perhaps the distribution deal on I think perhaps the distribution deal on that wasn't as good as right something

02:11:16that wasn't as good as right something that wasn't as good as right something else or you know so it's you know it's else or you know so it's you know it's else or you know so it's you know it's all business it's a phenomenal movie all business it's a phenomenal movie all business it's a phenomenal movie though it's a great film yeah and it did though it's a great film yeah and it did though it's a great film yeah and it did better afterwards in DVD and streaming better afterwards in DVD and streaming better afterwards in DVD and streaming and all that yeah it did well yeah yeah and all that yeah it did well yeah yeah

02:11:30and all that yeah it did well yeah yeah I watched it again like two years ago I watched it again like two years ago I watched it again like two years ago yeah I hadn't seen it in a while and I yeah I hadn't seen it in a while and I yeah I hadn't seen it in a while and I watched it again and I had forgot a watched it again and I had forgot a watched it again and I had forgot a bunch of aspects of it like God damn bunch of aspects of it like God damn bunch of aspects of it like God damn it's a good movie it's just Primal yes it's a good movie it's just Primal yes it's a good movie it's just Primal yes and I think I love primitive stuff you and I think I love primitive stuff you

02:11:42and I think I love primitive stuff you know and Primal emotions I mean know and Primal emotions I mean know and Primal emotions I mean basically it's a guy just trying to get basically it's a guy just trying to get basically it's a guy just trying to get back home to save his wife and kid and back home to save his wife and kid and back home to save his wife and kid and and he's got a lot of obstacles in the and he's got a lot of obstacles in the and he's got a lot of obstacles in the away like Jaguars and bad guys chasing away like Jaguars and bad guys chasing away like Jaguars and bad guys chasing him and trying to skin him and trying to him and trying to skin him and trying to

02:11:56him and trying to skin him and trying to rip his heart out it's pretty cool yeah rip his heart out it's pretty cool yeah rip his heart out it's pretty cool yeah it's pretty cool and I sat in a room it's pretty cool and I sat in a room it's pretty cool and I sat in a room with my assistant he said what do you with my assistant he said what do you with my assistant he said what do you want to do next Chase movie I said he want to do next Chase movie I said he want to do next Chase movie I said he said well so we found out where the said well so we found out where the said well so we found out where the Mayan canoes and Columbus and all that Mayan canoes and Columbus and all that

02:12:08Mayan canoes and Columbus and all that and then we just started making the and then we just started making the and then we just started making the story up in the room and we wrote it wow story up in the room and we wrote it wow story up in the room and we wrote it wow and yeah some assistant man he actually and yeah some assistant man he actually and yeah some assistant man he actually wrote he actually tapped it wrote he actually tapped it wrote he actually tapped it out crazy so when you're making this out crazy so when you're making this out crazy so when you're making this resurrection movie now um you you also resurrection movie now um you you also

02:12:26resurrection movie now um you you also have this obligation there's this you're have this obligation there's this you're have this obligation there's this you're doing a very similar thing that you were doing a very similar thing that you were doing a very similar thing that you were doing with The Passion of the Christ doing with The Passion of the Christ doing with The Passion of the Christ where this is this is a profound story where this is this is a profound story where this is this is a profound story yes when you put something like that yes when you put something like that yes when you put something like that together how do you choose who's going

02:12:41together how do you choose who's going together how do you choose who's going to be the next Jesus you use him again to be the next Jesus you use him again to be the next Jesus you use him again cavel yeah I know it's 20 years later cavel yeah I know it's 20 years later cavel yeah I know it's 20 years later it's 20 years later but it's yeah but it's 20 years later but it's yeah but it's 20 years later but it's yeah but it's the right guy yeah but it's it's the right guy yeah but it's it's the right guy yeah but it's it's supposed to be three days later but it's supposed to be three days later but it's supposed to be three days later but he got 20 years older and I think um I

02:12:58he got 20 years older and I think um I he got 20 years older and I think um I have to use a few techniques that have to use a few techniques that have to use a few techniques that they've starting to get really good with they've starting to get really good with they've starting to get really good with the CGI and yeah oh they can do amazing the CGI and yeah oh they can do amazing the CGI and yeah oh they can do amazing things now you can actually yeah get things now you can actually yeah get things now you can actually yeah get some of the same people and by the time some of the same people and by the time some of the same people and by the time you film it it'll be even better yeah

02:13:10you film it it'll be even better yeah you film it it'll be even better yeah when are you going to start filming I'm when are you going to start filming I'm when are you going to start filming I'm hoping hoping hoping uh next year uh next year uh next year sometime it's there's a lot required sometime it's there's a lot required sometime it's there's a lot required because it is I'll just tell you this because it is I'll just tell you this because it is I'll just tell you this it's an acid trip when we wrote it it is it's an acid trip when we wrote it it is it's an acid trip when we wrote it it is like I've never read anything like it like I've never read anything like it

02:13:29like I've never read anything like it and my brother and I and Randall uh all and my brother and I and Randall uh all and my brother and I and Randall uh all sort of congregated on this so there's sort of congregated on this so there's sort of congregated on this so there's some good heads put together but there's some good heads put together but there's some good heads put together but there's some crazy some crazy some crazy stuff um and I think in order to really stuff um and I think in order to really stuff um and I think in order to really tell the story properly you have to tell the story properly you have to tell the story properly you have to start with the fall of the Angels right

02:13:51start with the fall of the Angels right start with the fall of the Angels right yeah which is you're in another place yeah which is you're in another place yeah which is you're in another place you're in another you're in another you're in another realm you know you need to go to hell realm you know you need to go to hell realm you know you need to go to hell you need to go to sh so you're going to you need to go to sh so you're going to you need to go to sh so you're going to have hell you're going to have Satan all have hell you're going to have Satan all have hell you're going to have Satan all that yeah whoa sure you got to yeah that yeah whoa sure you got to yeah

02:14:05that yeah whoa sure you got to yeah right you got to have his origin how do right you got to have his origin how do right you got to have his origin how do you repres how do you depict you repres how do you depict you repres how do you depict that this is a good question and I think that this is a good question and I think that this is a good question and I think um I have ideas about how to do that and um I have ideas about how to do that and um I have ideas about how to do that and ideas about how ideas about how ideas about how to evoke things and emotions in people to evoke things and emotions in people to evoke things and emotions in people from the way you depict it and the way

02:14:27from the way you depict it and the way from the way you depict it and the way you shoot it so I've been thinking about you shoot it so I've been thinking about you shoot it so I've been thinking about it for a long time so it's uh it's it's it for a long time so it's uh it's it's it for a long time so it's uh it's it's not going to be easy and it's going to not going to be easy and it's going to not going to be easy and it's going to require a lot of require a lot of require a lot of planning and planning and planning and um and I'm not wholly sure I can pull it um and I'm not wholly sure I can pull it um and I'm not wholly sure I can pull it off to tell you the truth it's really

02:14:44off to tell you the truth it's really off to tell you the truth it's really super super super ambitious but I'll take a crack at it ambitious but I'll take a crack at it ambitious but I'll take a crack at it cuz that's what you got to do right walk cuz that's what you got to do right walk cuz that's what you got to do right walk up to the plate right right so I I think up to the plate right right so I I think up to the plate right right so I I think I can get I can get I can get it but it's not about me you know right it but it's not about me you know right it but it's not about me you know right about something else well if anybody can about something else well if anybody can

02:15:01about something else well if anybody can do it you can do it well I hope so it's do it you can do it well I hope so it's do it you can do it well I hope so it's it's a um it's trying to find the way it's a um it's trying to find the way it's a um it's trying to find the way in that's not like cheesy or obvious but in that's not like cheesy or obvious but in that's not like cheesy or obvious but that that that actually it's almost like a magic trick actually it's almost like a magic trick actually it's almost like a magic trick in a sense it's diversion it's in a sense it's diversion it's in a sense it's diversion it's confiscate this show confiscate this show

02:15:23confiscate this show that look over here you know I yeah it's that look over here you know I yeah it's that look over here you know I yeah it's um do you have a um do you have a um do you have a title uh yeah it's just like the title uh yeah it's just like the title uh yeah it's just like the resurrection of the resurrection of the resurrection of the Christ yeah it's like uh so that's a Christ yeah it's like uh so that's a Christ yeah it's like uh so that's a title and yeah it's

02:15:43uh it's very ambitious that's all I'll uh it's very ambitious that's all I'll say it just it took a long time to write say it just it took a long time to write say it just it took a long time to write it's really ambitious and it goes from it's really ambitious and it goes from it's really ambitious and it goes from like the fall of the angels to the death like the fall of the angels to the death like the fall of the angels to the death of the last apostle do you have a start of the last apostle do you have a start of the last apostle do you have a start date I don't have a start date I just date I don't have a start date I just

02:15:54date I don't have a start date I just have to begin pre-production and see have to begin pre-production and see have to begin pre-production and see what happens um and it's it's just going what happens um and it's it's just going what happens um and it's it's just going to roll in its own time it's taking its to roll in its own time it's taking its to roll in its own time it's taking its own time I thought it was late I thought own time I thought it was late I thought own time I thought it was late I thought taking too long it's taking too long but taking too long it's taking too long but taking too long it's taking too long but it's probably just right yeah it's when

02:16:10it's probably just right yeah it's when it's probably just right yeah it's when it's supposed to be yeah well if you it's supposed to be yeah well if you it's supposed to be yeah well if you believe that that's true yeah yeah I believe that that's true yeah yeah I believe that that's true yeah yeah I don't know I hope you're right I think don't know I hope you're right I think don't know I hope you're right I think I'm right my instincts are that I'm I'm right my instincts are that I'm I'm right my instincts are that I'm right yeah yeah and if I was going to right yeah yeah and if I was going to right yeah yeah and if I was going to trust anybody with that story it would

02:16:23trust anybody with that story it would trust anybody with that story it would be you yeah I don't know it's a a be you yeah I don't know it's a a be you yeah I don't know it's a a massive thing and theologically massive thing and theologically massive thing and theologically it's it's something that you have to it's it's something that you have to it's it's something that you have to really look really look really look at and make at and make at and make correlations

02:16:47that that ring that that ring true because it's not all written do you true because it's not all written do you true because it's not all written do you consult with someone like a Biblical consult with someone like a Biblical consult with someone like a Biblical scholar oh yeah oh my goodness yeah yeah scholar oh yeah oh my goodness yeah yeah scholar oh yeah oh my goodness yeah yeah yeah and of course you know there's your yeah and of course you know there's your yeah and of course you know there's your own thing that comes into it from having own thing that comes into it from having own thing that comes into it from having read the the book a few times you read

02:17:06read the the book a few times you read read the the book a few times you read the book a few times and the book a few times and the book a few times and um it's amazing how your memory how um it's amazing how your memory how um it's amazing how your memory how there's these recessive files somewhere there's these recessive files somewhere there's these recessive files somewhere in the background how you can correlate in the background how you can correlate in the background how you can correlate this piece to that piece over there and this piece to that piece over there and this piece to that piece over there and that's important because jux the that's important because jux the

02:17:19that's important because jux the position is everything with this position is everything with this position is everything with this story and story and story and um what it means in a bigger um what it means in a bigger um what it means in a bigger picture yeahh so it's it's hard to picture yeahh so it's it's hard to picture yeahh so it's it's hard to explain but it's it's it's quite explain but it's it's it's quite explain but it's it's it's quite involved yeah I can only imagine yeah involved yeah I can only imagine yeah involved yeah I can only imagine yeah and I don't know that you can do it in a and I don't know that you can do it in a

02:17:38and I don't know that you can do it in a foreign language because the concepts foreign language because the concepts foreign language because the concepts are too difficult now so that you may are too difficult now so that you may are too difficult now so that you may have to um resort to the vernacular so have to um resort to the vernacular so have to um resort to the vernacular so that that at least is clear is that up that that at least is clear is that up that that at least is clear is that up for debate right now with you yeah it is for debate right now with you yeah it is for debate right now with you yeah it is I'm thinking like but like look have you

02:17:54I'm thinking like but like look have you I'm thinking like but like look have you seen these apps now where they have this seen these apps now where they have this seen these apps now where they have this AI stuff where the guy talking German AI stuff where the guy talking German AI stuff where the guy talking German and then he switches to French and then and then he switches to French and then and then he switches to French and then he Spanish and then Chinese and have you he Spanish and then Chinese and have you he Spanish and then Chinese and have you seen that and his mouth moves and it's seen that and his mouth moves and it's

02:18:05seen that and his mouth moves and it's the same voice I mean it's crazy what the same voice I mean it's crazy what the same voice I mean it's crazy what they do so so are you going to use that they do so so are you going to use that they do so so are you going to use that kind of a tool do you think you could kind of a tool do you think you could kind of a tool do you think you could will you begin it in Aramaic or in will you begin it in Aramaic or in will you begin it in Aramaic or in Hebrew maybe yeah arama is is really the Hebrew maybe yeah arama is is really the Hebrew maybe yeah arama is is really the kick isn't it but you know I think uh I kick isn't it but you know I think uh I

02:18:22kick isn't it but you know I think uh I think I'll write I've written it in think I'll write I've written it in think I'll write I've written it in English but I wrote the last one in English but I wrote the last one in English but I wrote the last one in English too and and translated English too and and translated English too and and translated it um but and then the people had to it um but and then the people had to it um but and then the people had to learn to speak it because there was I learn to speak it because there was I learn to speak it because there was I think there's only about 400 people that think there's only about 400 people that

02:18:35think there's only about 400 people that actually speak Aramaic still wow and actually speak Aramaic still wow and actually speak Aramaic still wow and apparently they understood it so I was apparently they understood it so I was apparently they understood it so I was happy about that wow so that was good happy about that wow so that was good happy about that wow so that was good yeah 400,000 people sorry oh in the yeah 400,000 people sorry oh in the yeah 400,000 people sorry oh in the world that makes more sense yeah yeah world that makes more sense yeah yeah world that makes more sense yeah yeah sorry 400 people yeah i' like preserve sorry 400 people yeah i' like preserve

02:18:50sorry 400 people yeah i' like preserve those 400 people yeah not many people those 400 people yeah not many people those 400 people yeah not many people speaking Latin still but but that's speaking Latin still but but that's speaking Latin still but but that's quite well known well I can't wait to quite well known well I can't wait to quite well known well I can't wait to see it man um and uh I just want to say see it man um and uh I just want to say see it man um and uh I just want to say I I appreciate you very much all all the I I appreciate you very much all all the I I appreciate you very much all all the stuff that you've done you've made some stuff that you've done you've made some

02:19:04stuff that you've done you've made some really awesome pieces in your life you really awesome pieces in your life you really awesome pieces in your life you really have thank you yeah yeah great really have thank you yeah yeah great really have thank you yeah yeah great stuff yeah yeah I'm I I'm Blown Away by stuff yeah yeah I'm I I'm Blown Away by stuff yeah yeah I'm I I'm Blown Away by where you got to with this which is like where you got to with this which is like where you got to with this which is like didn't you start off just smoking a didn't you start off just smoking a didn't you start off just smoking a spliff on a couch couch with a guy spliff on a couch couch with a guy

02:19:22spliff on a couch couch with a guy and yeah okay yeah it's amazing yeah and yeah okay yeah it's amazing yeah and yeah okay yeah it's amazing yeah it's pretty bizarre yeah I'm not exactly it's pretty bizarre yeah I'm not exactly it's pretty bizarre yeah I'm not exactly sure how it happened no that's good I sure how it happened no that's good I sure how it happened no that's good I just kind of kept doing it yeah okay just kind of kept doing it yeah okay just kind of kept doing it yeah okay yeah yeah I'm a fan thank you I watch it yeah yeah I'm a fan thank you I watch it yeah yeah I'm a fan thank you I watch it all the time thank you there was no plan all the time thank you there was no plan

02:19:38all the time thank you there was no plan to it I'll tell you that no there still to it I'll tell you that no there still to it I'll tell you that no there still kind of isn't I still kind of do it the kind of isn't I still kind of do it the kind of isn't I still kind of do it the same way yeah okay every day you wake up same way yeah okay every day you wake up same way yeah okay every day you wake up yeah I just look at my phone I go online yeah I just look at my phone I go online yeah I just look at my phone I go online I say who do I want to talk to yeah this I say who do I want to talk to yeah this I say who do I want to talk to yeah this guy might be interesting yeah you know

02:19:53guy might be interesting yeah you know guy might be interesting yeah you know okay that's really next Who's Next you okay that's really next Who's Next you okay that's really next Who's Next you get some pretty interesting people get some pretty interesting people get some pretty interesting people yeah yeah I was amazed at that yeah yeah I was amazed at that yeah yeah I was amazed at that uh I can't remember his name now Terren uh I can't remember his name now Terren uh I can't remember his name now Terren what he was all into Terence Howard yeah what he was all into Terence Howard yeah what he was all into Terence Howard yeah yeah the actor yeah yeah bril guy had a

02:20:11yeah the actor yeah yeah bril guy had a yeah the actor yeah yeah bril guy had a bunch of stuff going on I was like whoa bunch of stuff going on I was like whoa bunch of stuff going on I was like whoa yeah oh he's out there yeah yeah he's yeah oh he's out there yeah yeah he's yeah oh he's out there yeah yeah he's out there but I mean you have to be to out there but I mean you have to be to out there but I mean you have to be to be one of those guys you do well listen be one of those guys you do well listen be one of those guys you do well listen brother thank you very much for brother thank you very much for brother thank you very much for everything appreciate you coming in here

02:20:23everything appreciate you coming in here everything appreciate you coming in here yeah thanks thank you thank you thank yeah thanks thank you thank you thank yeah thanks thank you thank you thank you your new movie is great and uh all you your new movie is great and uh all you your new movie is great and uh all your stuff's great I'm I'm a big fan so your stuff's great I'm I'm a big fan so your stuff's great I'm I'm a big fan so yeah tickets on sale today yeah when yeah tickets on sale today yeah when yeah tickets on sale today yeah when does he come out oh God on the 25th 24th does he come out oh God on the 25th 24th

02:20:35does he come out oh God on the 25th 24th 25th yeah 24th I think okay so soon yeah 25th yeah 24th I think okay so soon yeah 25th yeah 24th I think okay so soon yeah it's fun it is fun yeah I enjoyed it yep it's fun it is fun yeah I enjoyed it yep it's fun it is fun yeah I enjoyed it yep all right thank you very much thank Jo all right thank you very much thank Jo all right thank you very much thank Jo bye everybody bye everybody bye everybody [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Music]